Men wanted to have sex with them, and those men had to work at it.
The best women made you work really hard at it by insisting you married them - and society did its best to ensure you stayed married by stigmatisating divorce.
Life wasn't perfect, but then it never will be.
Now many women will sleep with any man who takes their fancy. And they wonder why they end up lonely and sad in their later years.
The left - for want of a better word - has done an amazing amount of damage in the last fifty years, and is accelerating in lunatic fashion.
I blame a lot of men for being sexually incontinent, feckless wasters - but at least they're broadly acting in line with their nature.
Women have given it all away, and once that genie is out of the bottle it's a damned hard thing to do - at a societal level, if not the individual - to put it back.
I speak, for what it's worth, as a former sexual incontinent who has been happily and faithfully married to an amazing woman for 27 years, and further as the father of daughters for whom I worry every day.
The thing I don't quite get about those sorts of claims is: if there are cures for cancer, why do rich and powerful people die of cancer?
Under the prevailing model, speed of diagnosis and thus treatment (and lower stress/better diet etc) would explain why they live a little long than the Glaswegian unemployed or a New Jersey steelworker, but they do still get tumours and succumb to them.
Not saying I don't agree with the broad thrust, mind you.
Maybe they're not really in the club they thought they were in? Edward G Griffith, Jekyl Island fame, talked about how government officials would visit these natural curing docs for treatments which authorities had made illegal mainly as Rockefeller couldn't copy and patent to make blockbuster drugs and profits.
Same with the rather 'strange' rise of illnesses among our elites, incl. Charles III. As an aside, while on vacation, even Norway's king was hospitalised in Malaysia.
Yes, all come to pass, unfortunately. Sex drugs, rock 'n roll, mini skirts, free love, the pill, abortion, drugs, gayness, gender fluidity, loss of religeous teaching, etc., etc.
I think there's a term that used to be quite popular called "f**k buddies" in which people would meet just for that purpose, and I should think, very popular with commitment phobes and/or for those married ones, both sexes, who have higher sex drives than partners, or those that enjoy the thrill of extramarital sex.
I couldn't agree more about deleting these apps and just going out and joining groups with hobbies you enjoy and perhaps meet someone with shared interests. I tried it 20 years ago after my divorce, although my children were my first priority. What I found on signing up, prior to subscription, was a huge number of likes which boosts ego. You can message so far but to progress, the monthly subscription was required. Then you could start getting to know somone. On several occasions, when I suggested meeting up, they'd stop communicating. Of course, I met a couple and saw him for over a year. I think these apps hire people to reply, no doubt AI can do this now. Not used any the young ones go on. A lot of pics portray both sexes, mainly women, like meat in a butcher shop, too. The plandemic did not help, nor the fact most kids move away from family and friends to university and majority don't return. Older people have more baggage, ex husbands, kids, financial probs than young ones. This girl's story is typical. My daughter has 3 close friends from school who now all have different lives. Two went to London, 250 miles away, the other went to Australia, met an english man who's emigrated and both are settled. Of the Londoners, one got into a long relationship straight away and the other, desperate to meet Mr Right but failing for years. At last she finds him! The other one, then decides to be single again. My own daughter came out of a long term unhappy relationship to form a new one with older brother of Australian girl whom she knows from junior school age. They are all mid 30's, none have plans for families but one of the main things is they are at least 10 years older than I was in getting mortgages, want their homes like magazine double page spreads and enjoy their exotic hols. I gave up the stresses of internet dating and remain single! I do understand how women feel. Maybe some younger males will have something to say?
My circles are also mainly middle-aged, married people (both men and women) with kids.
I do see loads of students, though, and in the past almost four years, there was but one who speaks of his wife. This is all the more strange, I think, as the Nordic countries offer so many possibilities and support for young parents.
I sometimes watch the Norwegian novelist on YT, the one who likes outdoor life, with his campfire. He was urging lots of procreation to keep numbers up! I didn't start my family until mid 30's due to a previous failed marriage and rushed into motherhood too quickly with yet another incompatible man! I think I'll be waiting a good while, maybe forever, to become a grandmother. I have friends, just a few years older, who are great grandparents already and most my age are grandparents. I could conceivably be my daughter's fiancè's grandparent as his parents only teenagers when they had him and the relationship still strong. I've been out of sync with most things all my life!
Our first child was born when I was 32, which was partly due to the vagaries of an academic career (incl. living apart in different countries before that). If there's one thing I'd change about my life, it's starting a family earlier (provided it would be with the same partner, of course).
I agree but you have to have met the parent to be at the right time and sounds like you did, and circumstances delayed your family for a just a little while.
The way I see it, few people have interests, and fewer have hobbies these days. I don't know why that is, but I sense that mindless, addicted browsing is part of the answer here.
Paul Alexander today shared this substack on growing up as a girl in today’s society which I found insightful and well written. And yes incredibly sad. It also fills in the story behind the swipe culture I feel, for both men and women.
Yes yes yes thank you I find this a very important topic, or symptom even, in today’s society. I too am in the fortunate “meet in person” generation alas I observe my nieces and nephew (ages 20-30) almost not even showing any interest in being in a loving partnership.
I think it's a symptom, it seems, at best, an unintended consequence of mass media + internet + 'smart phones' (or, if you're more 'conspiratorially' inclined, premeditated).
I recently watched some old 'Friends' episodes, and I think as odd as they seem today, they also show that wave of the future, which later, and seamlessly so, led to 'How I met Your Mother'.
Maybe my age is beginning to show, but I'd also add this: there's so many middle-aged people w/o children now that I'm beginning to wonder: why do they move from adolescence to retirement behaviour in the late 30s? What's the purpose of getting up?
I agree. While I can’t claim to have solved the eternal philosophical question of “what is the meaning of life”, having kids and passing on your lineage certainly seems to be a good contender.
It used to be that women had all of the power.
Men wanted to have sex with them, and those men had to work at it.
The best women made you work really hard at it by insisting you married them - and society did its best to ensure you stayed married by stigmatisating divorce.
Life wasn't perfect, but then it never will be.
Now many women will sleep with any man who takes their fancy. And they wonder why they end up lonely and sad in their later years.
The left - for want of a better word - has done an amazing amount of damage in the last fifty years, and is accelerating in lunatic fashion.
I blame a lot of men for being sexually incontinent, feckless wasters - but at least they're broadly acting in line with their nature.
Women have given it all away, and once that genie is out of the bottle it's a damned hard thing to do - at a societal level, if not the individual - to put it back.
I speak, for what it's worth, as a former sexual incontinent who has been happily and faithfully married to an amazing woman for 27 years, and further as the father of daughters for whom I worry every day.
True words, and I'm not saying men aren't to 'blame', too--although seeing, e.g., 'cheat pass' clips on social media is illuminating here.
All by design! https://drrichardday.wordpress.com Recollections of lecture 1969
The thing I don't quite get about those sorts of claims is: if there are cures for cancer, why do rich and powerful people die of cancer?
Under the prevailing model, speed of diagnosis and thus treatment (and lower stress/better diet etc) would explain why they live a little long than the Glaswegian unemployed or a New Jersey steelworker, but they do still get tumours and succumb to them.
Not saying I don't agree with the broad thrust, mind you.
Maybe they're not really in the club they thought they were in? Edward G Griffith, Jekyl Island fame, talked about how government officials would visit these natural curing docs for treatments which authorities had made illegal mainly as Rockefeller couldn't copy and patent to make blockbuster drugs and profits.
Same with the rather 'strange' rise of illnesses among our elites, incl. Charles III. As an aside, while on vacation, even Norway's king was hospitalised in Malaysia.
Interesting!
Yes, all come to pass, unfortunately. Sex drugs, rock 'n roll, mini skirts, free love, the pill, abortion, drugs, gayness, gender fluidity, loss of religeous teaching, etc., etc.
Family!
Men who don't marry remain boys; marrying forces us to grow the F up and walk tall, speak truth and act right. Having children even more so.
Women who don't marry become bitter spinsters, aka feminists.
Neither is good, least of all for the individual in question.
Exactly.
As regards women, well, those who in the past didn't marry became 'iron virgins' or the like, which is a category that's virtually extinct by now…
The Left went Right off the cliff
A while ago, for sure, and these are, to a certain extent, after-shocks.
The 'right' is not far behind, for it now occupies most space once covered by 'the left', and there's only said cliff to go.
What is a "situationship" is what I was left wondering.
Hihi, same same, but the NRK piece includes a pop-up 'explaining' this (hence my musings…).
I think there's a term that used to be quite popular called "f**k buddies" in which people would meet just for that purpose, and I should think, very popular with commitment phobes and/or for those married ones, both sexes, who have higher sex drives than partners, or those that enjoy the thrill of extramarital sex.
I couldn't agree more about deleting these apps and just going out and joining groups with hobbies you enjoy and perhaps meet someone with shared interests. I tried it 20 years ago after my divorce, although my children were my first priority. What I found on signing up, prior to subscription, was a huge number of likes which boosts ego. You can message so far but to progress, the monthly subscription was required. Then you could start getting to know somone. On several occasions, when I suggested meeting up, they'd stop communicating. Of course, I met a couple and saw him for over a year. I think these apps hire people to reply, no doubt AI can do this now. Not used any the young ones go on. A lot of pics portray both sexes, mainly women, like meat in a butcher shop, too. The plandemic did not help, nor the fact most kids move away from family and friends to university and majority don't return. Older people have more baggage, ex husbands, kids, financial probs than young ones. This girl's story is typical. My daughter has 3 close friends from school who now all have different lives. Two went to London, 250 miles away, the other went to Australia, met an english man who's emigrated and both are settled. Of the Londoners, one got into a long relationship straight away and the other, desperate to meet Mr Right but failing for years. At last she finds him! The other one, then decides to be single again. My own daughter came out of a long term unhappy relationship to form a new one with older brother of Australian girl whom she knows from junior school age. They are all mid 30's, none have plans for families but one of the main things is they are at least 10 years older than I was in getting mortgages, want their homes like magazine double page spreads and enjoy their exotic hols. I gave up the stresses of internet dating and remain single! I do understand how women feel. Maybe some younger males will have something to say?
My circles are also mainly middle-aged, married people (both men and women) with kids.
I do see loads of students, though, and in the past almost four years, there was but one who speaks of his wife. This is all the more strange, I think, as the Nordic countries offer so many possibilities and support for young parents.
I sometimes watch the Norwegian novelist on YT, the one who likes outdoor life, with his campfire. He was urging lots of procreation to keep numbers up! I didn't start my family until mid 30's due to a previous failed marriage and rushed into motherhood too quickly with yet another incompatible man! I think I'll be waiting a good while, maybe forever, to become a grandmother. I have friends, just a few years older, who are great grandparents already and most my age are grandparents. I could conceivably be my daughter's fiancè's grandparent as his parents only teenagers when they had him and the relationship still strong. I've been out of sync with most things all my life!
Our first child was born when I was 32, which was partly due to the vagaries of an academic career (incl. living apart in different countries before that). If there's one thing I'd change about my life, it's starting a family earlier (provided it would be with the same partner, of course).
I agree but you have to have met the parent to be at the right time and sounds like you did, and circumstances delayed your family for a just a little while.
I am a very fortunate man in this regard, yes. I was 26 then, so, better late than never…
>hiking, attend church, or sign up for a local club to meet real people.
Bravo!
And congrats and best wishes for the family.
Thank you for an interesting article.
The way I see it, few people have interests, and fewer have hobbies these days. I don't know why that is, but I sense that mindless, addicted browsing is part of the answer here.
Paul Alexander today shared this substack on growing up as a girl in today’s society which I found insightful and well written. And yes incredibly sad. It also fills in the story behind the swipe culture I feel, for both men and women.
https://open.substack.com/pub/zinnia01/p/a-partial-explanation-of-zoomer-girl
Thanks for highlighting it, I’ll chrck it out!
Yes yes yes thank you I find this a very important topic, or symptom even, in today’s society. I too am in the fortunate “meet in person” generation alas I observe my nieces and nephew (ages 20-30) almost not even showing any interest in being in a loving partnership.
I think it's a symptom, it seems, at best, an unintended consequence of mass media + internet + 'smart phones' (or, if you're more 'conspiratorially' inclined, premeditated).
I recently watched some old 'Friends' episodes, and I think as odd as they seem today, they also show that wave of the future, which later, and seamlessly so, led to 'How I met Your Mother'.
Maybe my age is beginning to show, but I'd also add this: there's so many middle-aged people w/o children now that I'm beginning to wonder: why do they move from adolescence to retirement behaviour in the late 30s? What's the purpose of getting up?
I agree. While I can’t claim to have solved the eternal philosophical question of “what is the meaning of life”, having kids and passing on your lineage certainly seems to be a good contender.
Same old, same old.
Also, don’t be an evolutionary dead-end!