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cm27874's avatar

I decided not to watch the interview. My video bucket list runneth over, and I consider the fact that the interview has taken place more important than the contents.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

It is, but reading the transcript will be quicker than the interview, quicker still if you jump past the history intro.

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epimetheus's avatar

There was no official transcript available at the time I watched it, and, yes, you're correct.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

I and my two-finger typing half-killed myself typing some of it for a related post. I saw it was on Tucker's site but I can't spend a month's food on a one-year subscription. But the Kremlin came to my rescue after my doctor called them, so I'm dividing it into a post per topic.

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Markker's avatar

The Oliver Stone documentaries, Ukraine on Fire, should have been watched by Carlson prior to the interview. I think he feigned his none knowledge so that the questions he posed, very simple, were to get simple answers, nothing hard hitting. BBC News described Carlson as a far right conservative, sacked by Fox News. I just think it was more performance of actors on the world stage, Act 2?

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epimetheus's avatar

That's a very important point, I think--I mean, Mr. Carlson is quite certainly among, if not the, best journalist the West has at this point who has such an audience. Past experiences suggest he was 'playing' along, for I doubt he came unprepared (esp. as it's very well known that Mr. Putin likes to 'steamroll' over his interviewers).

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Mike Hampton's avatar

The interview was extremely useful because the other side must be heard. That stands apart from Tucker's pretend astonishment, and he was smart, for his credibility, to end by asking about the imprisoned journalist.

Stone produced that documentary and its sequel, he never directed. Yeah, I appreciated them!

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epimetheus's avatar

Ah, sure, but don't forget that while Mr. Putin pointed repeatedly to the fact that after the end of the USSR there's no more 'ideological' discrepancy (I read this as someone who sought--and, perhaps, still seeks?--admission to 'the West'), but we note that Mr. Stone's films/interviews you mentioned come with their own (ideological) biases.

No problem here or there, but it's worth pointing out, I think.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Sure, I just found them far more valuable that the propagandous 'Winter on Fire'. That had far superior production, more like a fiction movie, and it delivered the false narrative of people power versus corruption. They were manipulated into a war, but what was true is that they were bravely standing up for themselves without knowing that. I was deeply moved by their courage.

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epimetheus's avatar

Same shit, different war, eh?

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Always!

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Similarly, '20 Days in Mariupol' was one of my favourite documentaries of 2023. It was clearly biased in that they only show Russians shooting missiles, and not Russia attacking Ukrainians shooting at them. But that's semantics to a degree. What I got out of it was identifying with civilians as victims of war.

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epimetheus's avatar

Haven't watched that one (I prefer reading), but now that I know that it exists, I shall watch it.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

I'm sure the EU will give it a hundred awards as part of their propaganda campaign but that won't remove its value for me.

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Kazimir Malevitch's avatar

Lovely Synthesis, dear Professor!!

I watched half of it last nigh live and found Putin absolutely clear and smart.

But after the second part I'll be more precise.

But if I can I'l add some points:

* Putin description of Cia on Nord Stream and no reaction from Germany was a very interesting point

* One of the most honest and clear point from Putin, that today all those prostitutes of the western media did not understand, was on US Propaganda power: he recognized that there is no way for Russia or China or Iran or Palestinian to turn off or counter respond to the World Media complex in the hand of US Agencies or Corporation, and even less to the Social evil Corporations made in Usa.

* Loved the times Putin answered to Carlson asking for more details on confidential issues "Ask your President... ask them... ask Cia..."! 😅

* as in other Putin speeches he always point that Russia, modern Russia (after 1991) has accepted so many dirty play by US/Nato and western countries without moving a soldier or tank.

I suggest you and your readers to read the new article published by Mr Burns head of CIA especially the part were he "laugh" at us, stupid idiot europeans, that have followed them in sanctions to Russia and support of Ukraine: "the war in Ukraine has been very positive for USA geopolitically and economically. It brought al lot of money to our Industrial Military Complex..."

That for EU has been exactly the opposite: a disaster geopolitically and economically, especially for families and Industries.

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epimetheus's avatar

You know, I almost fell off my chair when Mr. Putin mentioned pre-1939 Polish cooperation with Hitler (although he was fuzzy on the details as Poland wasn't party to the Munich Agreement, but this is kinda immaterial here), which surely points in the 'right' direction here (also, hilariously, it's a kind of 'sport' to piss of the Poles, if you're Russian, a kind of 'inside-baseball).

As to Mr. Putin responding calmly and carefully, esp. to the Nordstream bombing, well, I'm sure he knows that they know that he knows; I'd be surprised if there'd be no talks, esp. as everyone in London/NY/DC knows that the overall strategic aim of the USUK powers for 100+ years was to prevent Germany from coming to terms with Russia (irrespective of ideological predispositions).

Thanks for the reference to Mr. Burns (https://web.archive.org/web/20240130180420/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/print/node/1131302), and my take is--Europeans since 1945 have been 'chemically castrated' by the US, and every time some Americans make noises about this, it's fake, for US dominion over Europe cannot be maintained once Europeans would start talking about 'their' history in the same way as Mr. Putin did (and, yes, most countries/nations could do that and, in fact, did so until WW2). The two chief ways to keep Europeans down are NATO and the EU, so, there you go. I also surmise that everyone in charge (i.e., not 'Biden', Sunak, Scholz etc.) know this, hence the impossibility to talk about it in public given the virtually complete media/propaganda dominance of USUK elites.

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Kazimir Malevitch's avatar

Your point on europeans that should start taliking about their history it's as simple as powerful! txs!

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epimetheus's avatar

As I said, for a thought experiment, try what Mr. Putin did with [your] or any other country's history.

A few years ago, AfD deputy chair Alexander Gauland mentioned Hitler having been 'but a speck' (orig. nur ein Fliegenschiss) in German history, and he was consequently buried.

Mind you, I'm observing things, not siding with them.

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Jan J's avatar

Where to begin on this one… first of all, it’s useful to remember that Russia was and still is 100% on board with the covid/vaccine/digital ID WEF agenda - this is well documented by for example wiley raggaman, who often has his writings in OffGuardian. If the world is multipolar, there is still some supranational entity that is powerful enough to compel every country on earth to do the same thing quite literally on command.

Having said that, on to the interview: opening the interview with a 30 minute history lesson was actually useful for idiots like me who don’t know much about russian history. I assume most of what he said is correct and it did set the stage really nicely for the “we are really one people” line of argumentation he would use later. When you compare this guy to bumbling fools like Biden, Stoltenberg or Jonas Gahr Støre, you know we got the short end of the stick. This guy is in a different league.

Who runs the USA: Putin said repeatedly that there are powers more powerful than the president that run the show. I believe him.

Germany: Putin called out the german leadership for the bumbling fools and american lapdogs they are, like why is the functional nordstream pipe not in operation at the favor of expensive imported LNG from the US. He used rhetorical questions quite effectively . The sanctions are a mockery designed to empowerish Europe. Putin made the point, and pointed out that Russia is now the biggest European economy - despite sanctions. Ouch.

Denazification: this was not credible to me. I will be the first to point out how many literal neo-nazis there were and are in ukraine, but it’s simply not believeable that Russia is there to «denazify» ukraine. Tucker was good here and challenged Putin on the feasibility of this task. I did not like the cross-cutting to images from the Canadian parliament cheering for the retired Nazi, that was too propaganda-like for me. We all know it happened we didn’t need that visual aide.

There was a ton more that was interesting, but too tired to write more now.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

I agree that Tucker could have used a more substantive argument than the Canadian one but he was playing to his big support there. My thoughts on Ukraine's Nazis:

https://mikehampton.substack.com/p/putin-ukraine-nazi-history-civil-war

https://mikehampton.substack.com/p/putin-ukraine-nazis

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epimetheus's avatar

Thanks for the links!

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Candy's avatar

Looking forward to seeing it for myself

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The Great Santini's avatar

I wouldn’t be too hard on Tucker. He probably needed to be a little flexible in dealing with Putin. He wanted to get back to Florida, not spend the rest of his short life in a Russian prison.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

The history lesson wasn't as important as peaceful negotiation being offered, but the purpose of the history lesson was to suggest that Poland and Romania still have territorial gripes with Ukraine. Add Hungary's obvious one, and it could lead to instability for Western Ukraine when the war is over, or could open pathways for behind the scenes talking with Russia. I'm not saying a land grab is likely, because the American bosses of Poland and Romania would be upset, but it is a possibility.

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