No, I think you’re right there in reality. The birth rate is probably still down, and the effect of still-fertile refugees is skewing the data.
Also, remember what happens when you move a population into a new area where the weather and topography are completely different from the place they left. If they weren’t traumatized before, they are now. Some will do well-they would thrive anywhere-but the remainder will go back as soon as it seems safe. Some might not care if it’s safe. So the government realists are speaking the truth to people who don’t want to hear it, unfortunately
I forgot to mention--it's dark in winter in the North, much darker than where I live (60-61 degrees north).
Note that 'technical' limitations (residency restrictions, work permits) only apply until you change your residency status; I'd think that many refugees soon move away, despite the massive gov't subsidies.
Nice follow-up. Again the treacherous politicians are gaslighting the population by pretending the measures to incentivize people to nove north are a great success, when in reality it’s mainly due to ukrainian immigration. And the fact they call for more incentives is a great catch that they don’t actually believe their own lies.
“Replacement theory” is looking less and less like a “conspiracy theory” and more and more like “official govt. policy” all over Europe. The Norwegian birthrate, at 1.4 kids per woman means that the population will contract by about 1/3 every generation - because replacement level is 2.1 kids per woman. Think about that for a moment. 5.5 million to what, 4 million in a generation? But that’s not what’s going to happen, is it? The “population gap” will be filled, and yes you guessed it - it will be filled by immigrants.
I recall a piece a while ago in some Norwegian legacy media outlet that said that, at long last, 'these [Ukrainian] refugees look like us', which gave away that game quite openly. Of course, this won't be reported on, with less measures taken to counter it by the gov't.
If you'd ask me, I'd rather plug these gaps with Ukrainians than 'cultural enrichers' from very much more different areas/societies, if only because the likelihood of my daughters not having to wear a nikab or the like is definitely higher.
Also, recall that Vedum, speaking about healthcare reform in June 2023, declared that Norway will 'run out of people well before we're running out of money'. What's the Norwegian term for 'perverse incentive', by the way?
No, I think you’re right there in reality. The birth rate is probably still down, and the effect of still-fertile refugees is skewing the data.
Also, remember what happens when you move a population into a new area where the weather and topography are completely different from the place they left. If they weren’t traumatized before, they are now. Some will do well-they would thrive anywhere-but the remainder will go back as soon as it seems safe. Some might not care if it’s safe. So the government realists are speaking the truth to people who don’t want to hear it, unfortunately
I forgot to mention--it's dark in winter in the North, much darker than where I live (60-61 degrees north).
Note that 'technical' limitations (residency restrictions, work permits) only apply until you change your residency status; I'd think that many refugees soon move away, despite the massive gov't subsidies.
Nice follow-up. Again the treacherous politicians are gaslighting the population by pretending the measures to incentivize people to nove north are a great success, when in reality it’s mainly due to ukrainian immigration. And the fact they call for more incentives is a great catch that they don’t actually believe their own lies.
“Replacement theory” is looking less and less like a “conspiracy theory” and more and more like “official govt. policy” all over Europe. The Norwegian birthrate, at 1.4 kids per woman means that the population will contract by about 1/3 every generation - because replacement level is 2.1 kids per woman. Think about that for a moment. 5.5 million to what, 4 million in a generation? But that’s not what’s going to happen, is it? The “population gap” will be filled, and yes you guessed it - it will be filled by immigrants.
Exactly.
I recall a piece a while ago in some Norwegian legacy media outlet that said that, at long last, 'these [Ukrainian] refugees look like us', which gave away that game quite openly. Of course, this won't be reported on, with less measures taken to counter it by the gov't.
If you'd ask me, I'd rather plug these gaps with Ukrainians than 'cultural enrichers' from very much more different areas/societies, if only because the likelihood of my daughters not having to wear a nikab or the like is definitely higher.
Also, recall that Vedum, speaking about healthcare reform in June 2023, declared that Norway will 'run out of people well before we're running out of money'. What's the Norwegian term for 'perverse incentive', by the way?