First comment on the Joel Smalley article you linked to:
I've sort of run out of shocked/distressed/amazed/saddened comments.
Or funny/witty/sarcastic ones.
Or angry/indignant ones.
What is there left to say? The jabbed are jabbed. It can't be undone. They presumably don't want to know what they've done to themselves. The authorities don't want them to know. The conversation has been changed to save the sanity of the gullible.
To keep you sick AND convinced that they have the answers to your new problems. If people could see that the answer from pharma IS the problem, they’d stop. But they’re convinced that pharma is their friend
My take is--'we're first' because, historically, our polities were the ones that offered the possibilities of resistance to the globalist control-freaks.
I have to admit that for a long time I was naively blinded by the big freedom ideas behind the EU. Now I am totally shocked to see what has come out of it. I am trying to understand the ideas of Ulrike Guérot of how to rescue some of what could have been great. A bit to big a topic for comments…
Guess who funded and established IPH (as SIFF) in 1929? That’s right, the Rockefeller foundation... I think this tells you all you need to know about what their aims and goals are. It has little to do with health and a lot to do with pushing vaccines and other drugs. They’re in sales, not public health.
Finally, I'll round this off by adding an anecdote about one of my co-workers: 2 jabs, he had no problems with 'the virus' until summer 2022 (two weeks out, he said); before that, due to some AEs with jabs no. 1 and 2, he had declared he would 'never take another jab'. This stance has since morphed into 'well, if authorities mandate it, I would take it to be able to continue to travel'.
yes, I understand. Same as the deceitful narrative that persist most places. Prayerfully a good percentage of the population is waking up to reality and will stand up against it. But yes, your friend sounds like one of my patients who said he had to take the jobsjabs to work to support his family and now he’s dead. Too many far too many.
Well if I ever get to visit the country of my grandfather’s birth I will have to look you up. Be sure you take a break and feed your soul and meet God so you can be renewed and strengthened like soaring on eagles wings. This mess can be so so hard on us. But, He is faithful, friend. My grandfather was born in Flekkefjord. Sorry if I botched the spelling. He moved to the US when he was 18!
The definitions and data collection have become so muddy I can’t see a clear resolution ever being reached. They covered their tracks with bad record keeping. Not hard to do when you control both the medical industry and media. All Cause Death should be the elephant in the room but it’s too easily attributed to Long Covid or repeated infections. I think we better get used to being surrounded by obfuscation and lies.
On that page there's graph showing mortality: all cases plus the Covid cases, with a trend showing expected mortality. Noteworthy in a Covid perspective is, there are portions of the graph where deaths are in excess of progonosis, without any Covid cases contributing.
I wonder what the normal +/- swing is on IPHs projections of mortality?
Also dug up a very educational article from swedish SCB on what the term excess mortality means (it doesn't necessarily means more people are dying than "should") in statistics, and how it is calculated, and what some of the confounding factors are. In essence, excess mortality simply means that an earlier projection is off compared to actual numbers: it does not say anything about why that is so.
For starters, the year you use as the base point for your prognosis affects what the expected mortality will be, due to what the total age-range of the sample is. If 5% more 80+ died one year than expected (not anything strange about that), then this will almost guarantee a lower than expected number of 80+ dying next year - as the ones who were projected to do so statistically speaking already died.
Remember that the population increased by approx. 1 500 000 during this time, and the dead per year dropped anyway. We will see a dramatic change to this in years to come due to the ca 100 000 migrants per year all being of virtually the same age when they come here.
It may be Covid. It may be vaccines. It may be PFAS, changes to hormones, pesticides, bromide flame retardants in electronic devices, or something else.
Most likely, it is a statistical anomaly, or combinatorial factors contributing each one a little to overall increased mortality.
Two brief issues. sure, data artefacts (esp. the baseline) are important. We do see the combination of unprecedented (since 1972) drops in birth rates (-9% in Norway, 2022, relative to 2021) while, at the same time, there's excess mortality. The main beef here is: we're not looking at this with the necessary open mind. So far, we have 'low-tier' or rank-and-file members/collaborators speaking up, but those higher up in the food chain are equivocating. Until and unless this changes, the bafflement will continue.
Re the point you make about immigration: there's yet another facet to enquire about--and it relates to the massive influx of young males of a certain age bracket. Once they're looking for (female) partners, there's very few women relative to this over-supply of males around. I mean, it looks like we're re-creating, although unofficially, a kind of 'bottleneck' akin to a one-child policy in China (plus the male bias, not due to relative 'worth' assigned to boys vs. girls, like in China, but here it's due to selection pressures for mass migration), with the end result looking, in all likelihood, eerily similar. It won't end well, esp. for girls and young women over here.
Your translation "As there is a lower number of deaths among the younger age groups, fewer deaths are needed before we see a higher than expected mortality in these age groups" makes sense. Take the 0-19 age group, for example, which should consist of around 1mn people. The expected range of mortality (grey bar) is around +/- 5 per 100,000, or +/-50 actual deaths. Singular tragic events, for example, will therefore affect mortality. For example, the year 2011 shows high mortality which is likely due to Breivik's killings. I don't know what happened in 2009.
Cm already clarified the messy sentence. Baseline mortality is so low, that a few extra deaths shall inflate the RELATIVE numbers quite a bit. However, they try to downplay the new trend for young people in reproductive age !?
They coveniently omit the same global trend, which does not correlate with infections. Non-correlation tells more than correlation.
The lifetime expectancy is realible unit, where even tiny changes hide huge events. Dying young has tens of years of momentum to expected age; however, some 70% of covid deaths were for people on or past their expectancy, with little momentum! So most "from/with covid" deaths happened to people, who could succumb to normal cold. Where's the beef?
The true problem is younger people developing early age sicknesses; this includes birth rates collapses allover. How dare those conspirators suggest that hugely increased menstrual problems could affect to ability to concieve or give birth?
First comment on the Joel Smalley article you linked to:
I've sort of run out of shocked/distressed/amazed/saddened comments.
Or funny/witty/sarcastic ones.
Or angry/indignant ones.
What is there left to say? The jabbed are jabbed. It can't be undone. They presumably don't want to know what they've done to themselves. The authorities don't want them to know. The conversation has been changed to save the sanity of the gullible.
I know.
I'd add, or change, but one thing: 'The conversation has been changed to save the asses of those responsible.'
Problem is there is more in the pipeline,
Injections from cradle to grave for everyone.
To the grave, for sure.
Remember: Big Pharma’s MO is to keep you dependent (sick, or unhealthy) enough to continue to use their products.
To keep you sick AND convinced that they have the answers to your new problems. If people could see that the answer from pharma IS the problem, they’d stop. But they’re convinced that pharma is their friend
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked
Hihi, great minds think alike--I literally posted the same in a comment a few minutes ago.
Odd, how these things are perceived in this manner by totally different people, isn't it?
LOL. For sure!
Either that or--two idiots sharing the same though.
You be the judge--muahahahahhaa.
“There are none so blind as those who will not see.”
Exactly. That, and the Upton Sinclair quote:
'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'
Europeans everywhere appear the primary target.
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/the-depopulation-isnt-global-invasions
Interesting. I've written some musings about this issue, too:
https://fackel.substack.com/p/why-they-hate-us-white-peoples-with
My take is--'we're first' because, historically, our polities were the ones that offered the possibilities of resistance to the globalist control-freaks.
Thank you for the reading suggestion!
Thank you, epimetheus.
Thank you, sir!
I have to admit that for a long time I was naively blinded by the big freedom ideas behind the EU. Now I am totally shocked to see what has come out of it. I am trying to understand the ideas of Ulrike Guérot of how to rescue some of what could have been great. A bit to big a topic for comments…
Guess who funded and established IPH (as SIFF) in 1929? That’s right, the Rockefeller foundation... I think this tells you all you need to know about what their aims and goals are. It has little to do with health and a lot to do with pushing vaccines and other drugs. They’re in sales, not public health.
https://no.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkehelseinstituttet
Scratch a public health institution, find a globalist, eh?
You’re correct about the sales thing; same with the CDC, btw, which was founded to combat Malaria…
Oh I am alarm and baffled too - just for completely opposite reasons of the “scientists/journalists/politicians/...”
Academics, you forgot 'the experts™'!
So we can add Norway to the latest.. https://open.substack.com/pub/nptru4u/p/nations-slowly-awaken-after?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Many in my family are Norwegian. Wonder if they see it yet..
I'm hesitant to comment in the affirmative, and if you'd read my more recent updates, Norway is very much… different: public health officialdom has re-written the history of the 'Pandemic™', via https://fackel.substack.com/p/covid-in-norway-public-health-officials-de6
There are still people trusting the 'experts™' far enough and asking about getting a booster now, incl., to my surprise, 'unvaccinated' young people: https://fackel.substack.com/p/norwegian-experts-answer-questions
Finally, I'll round this off by adding an anecdote about one of my co-workers: 2 jabs, he had no problems with 'the virus' until summer 2022 (two weeks out, he said); before that, due to some AEs with jabs no. 1 and 2, he had declared he would 'never take another jab'. This stance has since morphed into 'well, if authorities mandate it, I would take it to be able to continue to travel'.
yes, I understand. Same as the deceitful narrative that persist most places. Prayerfully a good percentage of the population is waking up to reality and will stand up against it. But yes, your friend sounds like one of my patients who said he had to take the jobsjabs to work to support his family and now he’s dead. Too many far too many.
Sigh, I'm quite numbed by these 'anecdotes' by now, and it annoys me that it is like this.
Norway, as Steve Kirsch maintained, has pretty decent statistics, but the perverse incentives continue to hold sway.
Well if I ever get to visit the country of my grandfather’s birth I will have to look you up. Be sure you take a break and feed your soul and meet God so you can be renewed and strengthened like soaring on eagles wings. This mess can be so so hard on us. But, He is faithful, friend. My grandfather was born in Flekkefjord. Sorry if I botched the spelling. He moved to the US when he was 18!
The definitions and data collection have become so muddy I can’t see a clear resolution ever being reached. They covered their tracks with bad record keeping. Not hard to do when you control both the medical industry and media. All Cause Death should be the elephant in the room but it’s too easily attributed to Long Covid or repeated infections. I think we better get used to being surrounded by obfuscation and lies.
Where, pray tell, is the difference to before Covid?
Speaking of the IPH, I followed the link to NRK (Wilthil's article) and from there a link to IPH, an article from last year:
https://www.fhi.no/nyheter/2023/betydelig-overdodelighet-i-norge-i-2022/
On that page there's graph showing mortality: all cases plus the Covid cases, with a trend showing expected mortality. Noteworthy in a Covid perspective is, there are portions of the graph where deaths are in excess of progonosis, without any Covid cases contributing.
I wonder what the normal +/- swing is on IPHs projections of mortality?
Also dug up a very educational article from swedish SCB on what the term excess mortality means (it doesn't necessarily means more people are dying than "should") in statistics, and how it is calculated, and what some of the confounding factors are. In essence, excess mortality simply means that an earlier projection is off compared to actual numbers: it does not say anything about why that is so.
For starters, the year you use as the base point for your prognosis affects what the expected mortality will be, due to what the total age-range of the sample is. If 5% more 80+ died one year than expected (not anything strange about that), then this will almost guarantee a lower than expected number of 80+ dying next year - as the ones who were projected to do so statistically speaking already died.
https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/artiklar/2023/olika-matt-pa-overdodlighet-ger-liknande-resultat-for-sverige/
This is f.e. the deaths per year for Sweden for 2000-2023:
https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/sverige-i-siffror/manniskorna-i-sverige/doda-i-sverige#doda-per-ar
Remember that the population increased by approx. 1 500 000 during this time, and the dead per year dropped anyway. We will see a dramatic change to this in years to come due to the ca 100 000 migrants per year all being of virtually the same age when they come here.
It may be Covid. It may be vaccines. It may be PFAS, changes to hormones, pesticides, bromide flame retardants in electronic devices, or something else.
Most likely, it is a statistical anomaly, or combinatorial factors contributing each one a little to overall increased mortality.
But it needs to be investigated.
Two brief issues. sure, data artefacts (esp. the baseline) are important. We do see the combination of unprecedented (since 1972) drops in birth rates (-9% in Norway, 2022, relative to 2021) while, at the same time, there's excess mortality. The main beef here is: we're not looking at this with the necessary open mind. So far, we have 'low-tier' or rank-and-file members/collaborators speaking up, but those higher up in the food chain are equivocating. Until and unless this changes, the bafflement will continue.
Re the point you make about immigration: there's yet another facet to enquire about--and it relates to the massive influx of young males of a certain age bracket. Once they're looking for (female) partners, there's very few women relative to this over-supply of males around. I mean, it looks like we're re-creating, although unofficially, a kind of 'bottleneck' akin to a one-child policy in China (plus the male bias, not due to relative 'worth' assigned to boys vs. girls, like in China, but here it's due to selection pressures for mass migration), with the end result looking, in all likelihood, eerily similar. It won't end well, esp. for girls and young women over here.
The question remains: Is big anything good? It makes more and more sense to me that smaller structures are superior. Less evil can come out of them.
Probably not.
I’m not saying there are no benefits, but the potential for abuse is too big.
Yes, big pharma and big military for sure only have our health and safety on their minds….
Like Big Gov’t, which cares about our freedoms, eh?
Your translation "As there is a lower number of deaths among the younger age groups, fewer deaths are needed before we see a higher than expected mortality in these age groups" makes sense. Take the 0-19 age group, for example, which should consist of around 1mn people. The expected range of mortality (grey bar) is around +/- 5 per 100,000, or +/-50 actual deaths. Singular tragic events, for example, will therefore affect mortality. For example, the year 2011 shows high mortality which is likely due to Breivik's killings. I don't know what happened in 2009.
Thanks for pointing this out!
Cm already clarified the messy sentence. Baseline mortality is so low, that a few extra deaths shall inflate the RELATIVE numbers quite a bit. However, they try to downplay the new trend for young people in reproductive age !?
They coveniently omit the same global trend, which does not correlate with infections. Non-correlation tells more than correlation.
The lifetime expectancy is realible unit, where even tiny changes hide huge events. Dying young has tens of years of momentum to expected age; however, some 70% of covid deaths were for people on or past their expectancy, with little momentum! So most "from/with covid" deaths happened to people, who could succumb to normal cold. Where's the beef?
The true problem is younger people developing early age sicknesses; this includes birth rates collapses allover. How dare those conspirators suggest that hugely increased menstrual problems could affect to ability to concieve or give birth?
JR