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Joel Smalley's avatar

Why I don't understand is how there can't be just one, single, honest agent in public health or any other governmental office, anywhere in the world who wasn't (and still isn't) bothered by all the innocent people they are complicit in murdering. There's just a complete void of integrity and shame. Are these people even human?

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epimetheus's avatar

I'd go for a variation of Upton Sinclair: 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'

That said, I'd argue that while there may be a deeper (psycho)pathology involved, to me this looks more like the Nietzschean abyss that, after we gazed too long into it, is now (finally?) gazing back at us through people, such as Fauci, AIFA chief Magrini, or Prof. Ferguson of Imperial College.

You are probably well aware of many 'benevolent' Western interventions abroad, ranging from over military aggression (e.g., Yugoslavia in 1999) to more insidious 'vaccination' campaigns in the so-called 'developing', or Third World that resulted in attempted mass sterilisation.

[Athenians] Since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

[Melians] As we think, at any rate, it is expedient—we speak as we are obliged, since you enjoin us to let right alone and talk only of interest—that you should not destroy what is our common protection, the privilege of being allowed in danger to invoke what is fair and right, and even to profit by arguments not strictly valid if they can be got to pass current. And you are as much interested in this as any, as your fall would be a signal for the heaviest vengeance and an example for the world to meditate upon.

(Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, trans Crawley 1923, 394)

I suppose we're well past notions of tyranny exercised abroad is now being applied 'at-home', even though it looks very much like it.

To answer your question, at least tentatively: I fear it is not merely 'them' who are 'borderline' human, provided 'human' indicates a firm rooting in our shared humanity and, yes, continued believe in 'the good' parts of human nature.

'We' haven't cared much about all the crimes, by 'our' corporations and governments, visited upon our fellow human beings outside the 'core', which is to say: the collective West. 'Our' leaders, both corporate and national, took notice, and now 'they' are deploying these 'overseas', or 'colonial' (if you will), attitudes 'at-home'.

Long story short: 'we' have such a long history of not being human to our fellow humans outside 'the West', I find it hard not to note that the proverbial chicken are coming home to roost. Sure, there's plenty of opportunities for spineless politicians and soulless magnates, such as virtually all 'Western' politicians and corporate leaders, but this is hardly surprising.

That said, however, I do think there are (still) a bunch of good people--humans who, endowed with free will and constantly fighting for the Jeffersonian 'better angels of human nature', will persist. Greed isn't 'good', not all human interactions are carried out with monetary or 'power' gains in mind (ask any parent or those who care for their elderly relatives), and, if history is any guide, these moments will rise to prominence once again, even though the cost demanded of our shared humanity is staggering (and rising).

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Kazimir Malevitch's avatar

As italian as you know dear Stephan, I must say: Mafia is not an italian thing anymore since at least 30/40 years. From the times when Mafia kids went to top Economic Universities in Milan, then Yale or Harvard... to met with their american, british, german, french, ..., "brothers"...

Mafia today is WHO, or EU Commission and is mainly made of North Europe men and women, unless you want to call southern the Germans....

So as you also recalled at the end, problem today resides in Central/North Europe that is quickly turning into Nazi Mode of policies and actions... One for all Nato and the Act of War of Nord Stream sabotage... Can't recall any southern european involved in, nor sending tanks to Kiev or military personnel or Instructors if not wars squads...

So today the Elites of those european Countries are a huge dangerous problem, not Greece, Spain or Italy at all. By the fact not by hypothesis.

Back to your nice article, that program didn't move that much in Italy a part from people like us that already knew or suspected.

If you could read italian comments on articles on online newspapers there is often somebody that ask "Why Prosecutors are not moving? Why are they mute?"

Because the Prosecutor of the Trial in Bergamo where those docs where forced to show by the Judges, are not about that, are not about Covid itself, the origin, the choices that were made and overall the FakeVax© that most italians were forced to take together the infamous Green Pass. Nope.

That Trial is about, and I'm sure you saw on your foreigner news channel in Eu but even in US in March 2020, those long line of military trucks waiting ouside Bergamo town to collect the coffins of " hundreds" dead bodies by Covid-19... Wow! Or those many coffins inside a Church waiting and so on and on. All the show that was staged to grow the fear of the virus by those bloody politicians. Maybe that article didn't mention that head of NHI did want to change but problem was Minister of Health Roberto Speranza, that young Minister was the main devil of all of that together other Government officials.. He was pushing for longer lock-downs and more FakeVax© even if data was showing differently.

So the ridiculous thing is that they are discussing.... why the Government or Officials were not quick to impose limit, assistance or closing areas of infections... La peste! La peste!!! Why they didn't LOCKDOWN in time to limit the infections....

But as very often happens in Trials, other truths comes out form docs, emails, contracts and especially tapping, but then you need a bunch of brave Prosecutors that want they career finished or broken, for Justice sake. Sure, where are they? In which country they live?

Let me know! Txs

P.S.

Through my blog here I've tried to invite people to go to Police and denounce, we need to be a bunch of us not myself and my wife only...

But the ones that were screaming against Covid and related Narrative and measures or FakeVax© never show up, never answer to my request to group and organize a nice number of Compliant or a collective one.

So the first to blame are the ones that protest and when it comes the big chance to finish the job they hide . Those are the worst!! Even during Fascism or Nazism last century there were too many of them.

I'll send you a DM with another interesting story to share about, that occurred right before the beginning of that Trail.

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epimetheus's avatar

Oh, Kazimir, first up, thanks for the materials (I'll look at it later today); second, as an Italian speaker myself, I do read these newspapers and comment sections, too, but the main issue here isn't this or that, I suppose, but to seek answers to the question, 'why isn't anyone moving'?

I suppose that, like elsewhere in Bananastan (EU), state attorneys may be directed by politicians, such as Mr. Speranza (gee, I hope this is a stage-name: as it translates into 'hope', this seems utterly un-real). Hence the answer as to why nothing is done.

I further suppose that things will move quicker the more stuff falls apart; remember, societies don't break up, they break down. More people on sick leave, more injections = more adverse events, and at some point, the math won't add up much longer. This will be the point of reckoning, and I suppose we'll find out which reaction it'll trigger.

I was listening to David E. Martin over at James Kunstler's website a while ago: he mentioned it being supremely hard to find, in the US context, jurisdictions where both local law enforcement is willing to commence investigation into these matters AND find a district attorney willing to prosecute. In this regard, the US is a much 'weaker' state than most European countries with its firmly controlled judiciary.

Given the current mess, I suppose that the judiciary will move only once there's hundreds of thousands of people outside the seats of government protesting, nay: demanding 'something' to be done. Much like the captured 'news media' once used to do (and still does every now and then, viz. the Nord Stream stories), the judiciary will move quickly to save its hides.

I won't hold my breath, though, until that happens; but it will happen.

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Kazimir Malevitch's avatar

Interesting thoughts. I'll look at Martin speech, he's so logic and practical in his judgments. I like him.

But I've to disappoint you on Mr.Speranza, it is his real surname, unfortunately!

But on top of that trial that will not move to any new direction if we're not pressing them, there have been other Prosecutor that did start other trials during the Covid years, and you know for what? For some politicians or well know personalities in Italy that tried to make money out of masks business those years...

So, the picture is pretty ugly: you do move for masks and not for FakeVax© and not for unconstitutional temporary laws? Or even for the ticket of 500 euros for the over 50 years old italians that didn't want to take a FakeVax©?

I mean, Europe is at the end of the road and right 100 years after the Fascism took the power in Italy last century... This is something that freaks me out!

I'm pretty curious to see where we will be at the centenary of the start of Nazi power in Germany...

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Faz's avatar

Look where he parachuted in from

in March 2020

https://www.ema.europa.eu/sites/default/files/ContactsAndExperts_CVs_and_DOIs/magrini_n_CV_en.pdf

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epimetheus's avatar

Huhum, why, oh why, am I not surprised to see 'WHO' as his penultimate 'job'?

Thanks for bringing it up!

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Carl Herman's avatar

Smoking guns (10+) that school districts knew their "health" "orders" were Orwellian-illegal: my 2-year documentation of Hayward Unified School District's refusals to answer BASIC and REQUIRED questions, tragic-comic obfuscations, and outright objective LIES: https://carlbherman.blogspot.com/2022/07/challenging-our-public-school-districts.html

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Australia's TGA and New Zealand's Medsafe worked together on the Pfizer information pre-rollout, as revealed by Cranmer on his Substack. Medsafe did not give approval for the Pfizer rollout, the NZ Government lied and said they did and Australia completely ignored everything just plowing ahead. This shows that the Australian TGA knew about the safety issues and ignored them. I write here about the contracts, which I believe are the smoking gun to this. https://vicparkpetition.substack.com/p/australias-vaccine-contracts-updated

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