I wish had the reply from a vet specialising in infectious diseases among poultry when regime-media tried to make us panic back then (Swedish media was in Covid-levels of frenzy during the first reporting of "bird flu").
When interviewed by state radio, he replied:
"Well, don't pick up dead birds, don't eat them either and don't let your kids or pets play with them and there's no way you can get infected"
I hope the sarcasm that was dripping from his every word when replying to the out-of-breath woman journalist is evident. I vaguely recall her launching into a "But what if..." tirade about poultry farms being infected and people buying the meat at the store, before they cut to some other "news".
Reason Sweden and other civilised nations didn't have the problems we do now, what with infectious diseases among livestock, poultry, et cetera, just a few decades ago?
Total control over imports. Of feed, and of produce and product.
Border control.
If you brought your dog over to Norway, it was three weeks quarantine when you came back. Even if you had a "vaccine passport" for the dog. Even if a Norwegian vet had given it the all-clear. Still three weeks quarantine, just in case.
And if you brought to France or Spain or some other place with lax standards and rabies, parasites attacking liver, lungs and heart? Three months quarantine, plus testing.
And every effing car was checked when you rolled off the ferry. Every single one. We had close to 2 500 customs agents back then. Don't know how many hundreds of people who worked with product safety checks and regulations - and I do mean worked with it, not just pushing paper. If you wanted to sell something, you sent copies of the item to requisite authority and they tested them stuff to destruction. Too low quality meant no sale, essentially. Same with food. Same with medicines. Same with everything.
You know, that testing regime was abandoned when Sweden prepared to join the EC/EU (it's the same in Austria); all the responsibility was 'pooled' (as they say) in some EU institution (e.g., the EMA), yet most of the expertise/testing was 'outsourced' to companies filing paperwork.
The planning was strategic and precisely leveled to give countries all the freedom they need in implementation, to take cultural differences into account and to achieve the greatest success.
Two silly sayings come to mind. He who does not learn from History [fill in the blank]; doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of [fill in...]. But don't scientists, whoever those people used to be, repeat experiments over and over again, tweaking some fraction of something along the way?
I remember back when H5N1 was all the rage in the early-ish 2000's. The illness had me quite worried. (I listened to too much RFI. To this day, H5N1 doesn't sound right in any language but French.) Anyway, I remember wondering, should a pandemic occur, how I would handle things. (Not how I would force other people around me to handle things but how *I* would respond.)
Now I am no longer afraid of H5N1. I'm terrified of what tyranny governments would implement in response to a real or fake pandemic. Too bad HCQ and Ivermectin can't fix government.
I wish had the reply from a vet specialising in infectious diseases among poultry when regime-media tried to make us panic back then (Swedish media was in Covid-levels of frenzy during the first reporting of "bird flu").
When interviewed by state radio, he replied:
"Well, don't pick up dead birds, don't eat them either and don't let your kids or pets play with them and there's no way you can get infected"
I hope the sarcasm that was dripping from his every word when replying to the out-of-breath woman journalist is evident. I vaguely recall her launching into a "But what if..." tirade about poultry farms being infected and people buying the meat at the store, before they cut to some other "news".
Reason Sweden and other civilised nations didn't have the problems we do now, what with infectious diseases among livestock, poultry, et cetera, just a few decades ago?
Total control over imports. Of feed, and of produce and product.
Border control.
If you brought your dog over to Norway, it was three weeks quarantine when you came back. Even if you had a "vaccine passport" for the dog. Even if a Norwegian vet had given it the all-clear. Still three weeks quarantine, just in case.
And if you brought to France or Spain or some other place with lax standards and rabies, parasites attacking liver, lungs and heart? Three months quarantine, plus testing.
And every effing car was checked when you rolled off the ferry. Every single one. We had close to 2 500 customs agents back then. Don't know how many hundreds of people who worked with product safety checks and regulations - and I do mean worked with it, not just pushing paper. If you wanted to sell something, you sent copies of the item to requisite authority and they tested them stuff to destruction. Too low quality meant no sale, essentially. Same with food. Same with medicines. Same with everything.
But that was before neo-liberalist capitalism.
You know, that testing regime was abandoned when Sweden prepared to join the EC/EU (it's the same in Austria); all the responsibility was 'pooled' (as they say) in some EU institution (e.g., the EMA), yet most of the expertise/testing was 'outsourced' to companies filing paperwork.
The planning was strategic and precisely leveled to give countries all the freedom they need in implementation, to take cultural differences into account and to achieve the greatest success.
Lather rinse repeat… and it’s only week 1, darn it
And less than 10 years ago…
Two silly sayings come to mind. He who does not learn from History [fill in the blank]; doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of [fill in...]. But don't scientists, whoever those people used to be, repeat experiments over and over again, tweaking some fraction of something along the way?
That is all so true, esp. in terms of the moral rectitude of these so-called 'scientists™': what could any society do with them?
The biggest laugh of all is that while Dr Jekyll wanted to reduce the world population. . . he didn't need to try so hard:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/world-ready-population-bust-eberstadt?utm_medium=newsletters&utm_source=fatoday&utm_campaign=A%20Last%20Chance%20for%20Iran&utm_content=20250102&utm_term=EDZZZ003ZX
Per the FoI information at this link, US authorities(!) have zero evidence for any transfer of avian virus to human.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-147999620
Input to the simmering pot of thoughts, and many more FoI documents from the host.
Christine’s FoI update from today is worthy of addition here:
https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/official-cdc-confession-we-have-zero
I remember back when H5N1 was all the rage in the early-ish 2000's. The illness had me quite worried. (I listened to too much RFI. To this day, H5N1 doesn't sound right in any language but French.) Anyway, I remember wondering, should a pandemic occur, how I would handle things. (Not how I would force other people around me to handle things but how *I* would respond.)
Now I am no longer afraid of H5N1. I'm terrified of what tyranny governments would implement in response to a real or fake pandemic. Too bad HCQ and Ivermectin can't fix government.