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Rikard's avatar

Nah, bra, it's just like pre-emptively defending against Stalin by invading Poland. Or pre-emptively invading Irak to take care of those nasty weapons of mass destruction. Or pre-emptively invading Vietnam. Or the Philippines. Or the Barbary Coast. Or. . .

Shame about all the collateral damages.

On the other hand, I can't fault Israel for doing what is sensible in their position: surrounded by enemies who want them exterminated. Striking out to demonstrate that you can is worth quite a lot in real-politik terms. IDF high command do know, however, that their days are numbered unless they can hold on to their three major objectives:

1) Somehow stop the growth of moslems palestinian-arab populations inside Israel; they are citizens of Israel and make up close to 25% of the population, and since the IDF knows full well how fast palestinians in Gaza went from hundreds of thousands to millions, they know they have a very real problem and existential threat on their hands.

It is not only possible but likely, that we will see a new Exodus from Israel of jews, fleeing (back) to the USA, when the numbers of moslem arabs start to have a real impact in elections, and the rapidly growing number of liberal-progressive jews ally with the arabs.

2) Keep killing terrorists without incurring too much badwill from their goyim financiers. The time when "jew equals special class of victim, therefore good" is rapidly running out, as more and more westerners feels "good riddance to the both of you" re: arabs and jews fighting. And without obsequious perpetually flagellating europeans, Israel is SOL, since it has virtually zero real political, economical or cultural importance to us.

3) Keep their hold on US media and politics, via lobbying. Again, thanks to demographics, that window too is closing rapidly. If I had told you (or vice versa) ten years ago that in 2023/2024, US universities would allow "Judenrein" areas on campus on the say-so of dhimmi woke students? The very idea was preposterous: now, it's not just one campus but many.

It is very much starting to look as if the Israeli/jewish idea of sponsoring arab migration to Europe is backfiring spectacularly. 100 000 votes from people connected to nations controlling trade routes and natural resources, vs 100 votes from people connected to a nation that has nothing to offer outside of being a gult-tripping scold and a tourist resort?

Easy mathematics for a democratic politician.

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epimetheus's avatar

It's hard, if not outright impossible, to argue with you on any of these issues.

Re 1: you mean this here, eh? https://www.timesofisrael.com/data-shows-post-oct-7-emigration-surge-from-israel-which-has-since-stabilized/

Re 2: well, there are so many, frequent stabbings in Germany (and Austria) by 'members of the most peace-loving prophet's creed' it boggles the mind; in Solingen, Germany, three people were stabbed two days ago--and the police chief told citizens that 'they must decide whether to attend this or that venue' because, obviously, law enforcement (sic) doesn't--or can't--keep public order (probably both).

Re 2/3: this isn't ending well, for God's sake, you're in Sweden and you know the future of Germany, Austria, etc. There was one voting district in Germany (Cologne, if memory serves, but could have been Düsseldorf) where the first-time-on-the-ballot Islamist 'party' garnered almost 100% of the vote; England, here we come.

I hope you forgive me for not weighing in on the college issue; I deal with that BS everyday.

As to the mathematics of mass immigration, well, very soon we'll see how things could have been, courtesy of the virtually 'natural' experiment (Hungary). No good optics for 'democratic' politicos either.

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Rikard's avatar

Well, you could always call me "Putinist" or "Trump-supporter" :)

Isn't that the go-to panacea of arguements these days?

Yeah, we're up the creek good and proper - moslems won't and can't assimilate or change, and we're unwilling (soon unable) to do what is needed, because what is needed are actions that are against the "Värdegrund".

So instead, just two weeks ago, the Socialist Democrats here proposed a completely new, never-tried-before, Holy Grail and guaranteed successful method for dealing with our 14 000+ non-swedish armed gangers:

A pamphlet mailed to parents living in those areas where recruitment into gans is a risk.

Hallelujah, bismillahi, om mani padme hum, and so on - how come no-one in a century and a half of criminology and sociology and anthropology has never ever tried solving violent armed crime with pamphlets before!

If cynical sarcasm could be converted to electricity, you could hook me up to the grid and shutter all nuclear reactors.

My condolences re: university/college: the urge to bring a gun with rubber bullets when lecturing must be overwhelming at times. I hear from my brother that gender-politics and the rest of it has now made breakthroughs into geology and engineering.

Because how limestone is formed is so very much dependent on human sex organs or chromosomes.

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