Meet philosophy professor Anna Smajdor who calls for brain-dead women to 'donat[e] their whole bodies for gestational purposes': welcome to the BORG age
Ah… another day, another horror story… I’m torn as to what I should do? Walk off into the forest never to be seen again or join a monastery?
One medical point I would be curious about is the symbiotic relationship between mother and child in gestational pregnancy. I mean if the mother is brain dead how would this affect the child’s cognitive and physical development? I mean would they develop as fully as a child born to a non cognitively impaired mother?
Regardless the whole premise gives me the creeps.
I’ve seen a few videos by medical professionals that claim the donor patient during organ donation is not quite as brain dead as we are led to believe. I don’t know the veracity of these claims but considering the lies over the last few years I trust very little the medical establishment tells us in regards things we used to take for granted.
Interesting thoughts and attractive to a degree. I may join you in the woods and perhaps our paths will cross. Who knows.
Having been through the organ donation "process" with my deceased husband who was pronounced brain dead and the unrelenting pressure from the hospital to sign organ donation papers, I can attest, organ donors are as close to alive as possible when harvested. Which means they are alive when harvested if at all possible and in a hospital setting it's very possible.
Luckily my better instincts kicked in and I said no to organ donation as my husband was disconnected from the machines that were keeping him alive. Even in that moment as I was trying to aid him in his final moments, the pressure to sign the papers became intense. I stood my ground and I'm very glad I did. In the hallway outside his hospital room was a large staff waiting like vultures in the wings to swoop in as soon as I could be persuaded to sign the papers.
There would be no final moment with him for either of us. If I had signed they would have unplugged the machines and whisked him away to an operating room where I would never know what had happened to him. While he was still alive.
None of this is right. It's an abomination and needs to be called out plainly. If people want to take organs from donors so they can live longer they need to be honest about what they're engaging in. Harvesting.
Talk about falling right out the gate, when it comes to ethics:
"...prefer not to..."
If you can't for medical reasons and IVF is an option, no problem. Same with adoptions. Unless the medical reasons is something that makes you unfit (extreme fatness f.e.).
If you freely choose not to become pregnant, you have consciously forfeited that very thing. You cannot just go pick up your life-style baby at Dr Krankenschwein's bodyshop of little horrors!
Well, don't forget the Jacobin-esque re-fashioning of Germany after 1945 (which Hans Mommsen likened to the country's 'zero hour', or Stunde Null), aided, abetted, and imposed by our American 'liberators-occupiers'. (Yes, it could have been worse: just look at Eastern Europe under the Soviet heel.)
A lot of the academic ills that are so prevalent today hark back to the 'Frankfurt School', re-inserted into (West) German life by emigrés after WW2. Their main results are: subversion and demoralisation, which broke through in 1968, and we're living under the consequences ever since.…
Ah… another day, another horror story… I’m torn as to what I should do? Walk off into the forest never to be seen again or join a monastery?
One medical point I would be curious about is the symbiotic relationship between mother and child in gestational pregnancy. I mean if the mother is brain dead how would this affect the child’s cognitive and physical development? I mean would they develop as fully as a child born to a non cognitively impaired mother?
Regardless the whole premise gives me the creeps.
I’ve seen a few videos by medical professionals that claim the donor patient during organ donation is not quite as brain dead as we are led to believe. I don’t know the veracity of these claims but considering the lies over the last few years I trust very little the medical establishment tells us in regards things we used to take for granted.
Another issue to consider would be--the apparently quite frequent impetus of adopted children to search for their biological parent(s).
As to organ donation, well, we might as well throw in the notion of aborted fetal cell lines and vaccine production…
Interesting thoughts and attractive to a degree. I may join you in the woods and perhaps our paths will cross. Who knows.
Having been through the organ donation "process" with my deceased husband who was pronounced brain dead and the unrelenting pressure from the hospital to sign organ donation papers, I can attest, organ donors are as close to alive as possible when harvested. Which means they are alive when harvested if at all possible and in a hospital setting it's very possible.
Luckily my better instincts kicked in and I said no to organ donation as my husband was disconnected from the machines that were keeping him alive. Even in that moment as I was trying to aid him in his final moments, the pressure to sign the papers became intense. I stood my ground and I'm very glad I did. In the hallway outside his hospital room was a large staff waiting like vultures in the wings to swoop in as soon as I could be persuaded to sign the papers.
There would be no final moment with him for either of us. If I had signed they would have unplugged the machines and whisked him away to an operating room where I would never know what had happened to him. While he was still alive.
None of this is right. It's an abomination and needs to be called out plainly. If people want to take organs from donors so they can live longer they need to be honest about what they're engaging in. Harvesting.
God Bless.
Talk about falling right out the gate, when it comes to ethics:
"...prefer not to..."
If you can't for medical reasons and IVF is an option, no problem. Same with adoptions. Unless the medical reasons is something that makes you unfit (extreme fatness f.e.).
If you freely choose not to become pregnant, you have consciously forfeited that very thing. You cannot just go pick up your life-style baby at Dr Krankenschwein's bodyshop of little horrors!
Exactly.
Actions have consequences, and whining ex post facto isn’t gonna cut it (that is, unless you’re an ‘expert’, apparently).
GABRIEL
BLOW THE TRUMPETS
Hopefully, the end will come soon, that, too, was my first reaction upon reading the 'paper™'.
Herr Epimetheus
Does “brain dead” equate with the university educated progressives of today?
Tusen Takk
Jon
It would appear that way, doesn't it?
The more 'education' one receives, I presume, the higher the likelihood of brainwashing.
Well, don't forget the Jacobin-esque re-fashioning of Germany after 1945 (which Hans Mommsen likened to the country's 'zero hour', or Stunde Null), aided, abetted, and imposed by our American 'liberators-occupiers'. (Yes, it could have been worse: just look at Eastern Europe under the Soviet heel.)
A lot of the academic ills that are so prevalent today hark back to the 'Frankfurt School', re-inserted into (West) German life by emigrés after WW2. Their main results are: subversion and demoralisation, which broke through in 1968, and we're living under the consequences ever since.…
Incredible article. And difficult to read so I imagine it was for you to write.
Thank you for doing the heavy lifting.
Anything that can be done is being done by someone somewhere. Count on it.
God Bless.