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Martin Bassani's avatar

How come so few of us have been radicalized? I was radicalized long before COVID and saw it as another engineered event from the very start of the psy-op.

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epimetheus's avatar

Should've been more precise:

What radicalised me re Covid.

As to your question, well, I'd go for the Pareto distribution apparently applies also to political consciousness, don't you think?

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Martin Bassani's avatar

Yes, I believe Pareto seems to apply in this case, too.

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Rikard's avatar

"...and that visitor cannot be one person on Monday and another person on Tuesday."

I take it as given that this rule didn't also apply to staff, especially not to Gastarbeitern/migrants from Africa, Asia or MENA?

Nor did it apply to relatives of patients from those regions? Two dozen screaming, milling about, chaos-causing such trying to stomr the ER or examination room are the norm whenever one of them has a nasty accident or get shot or something in that vein.

Over here, I can't really say anyone was radicalised in any way. People, like the Rudolf Steiner-acolytes living south of Stockholm, are the way they are anyway. People who think things through and are habitual skeptics (like me) made informed choices. And the people who believe rather than know things, did misinformed choices.

I've been open about refusing the jabs, and I've been open about why all the time, and the strongest reaction I've gotten has been more along the lines of "Aren't you worried?" rather than any hostility or that I'm endangering others. Could because haing taught speechcraft, I know how to include pre-emptive strikes in my arguments: "I wonder why they say in the papers that unvaccinated people are dangerous to the vaccinated? Isn't that backwards? Otherwise, what point is there to the vaccine if it doesn't protect you anyway?" - say that, and the people you're talking to start nodding approal and agreement, while extolling the virtues of vaccines.

But not anymore. There's a quiet anger growing as people are realising that the jabs did squat. So far, it's under the surface because it takes "normal people" (pardon the phrase) time to find their feet, when it comes to questioning authorities.

And Norwegians are worse than Swedes at this: they are even more Good Followers as a cultural trait, than we are, so I doubt you'll see any real attempt at any reckoning or real change before 2030 at earliest in Norway.

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epimetheus's avatar

Unsure about these categories you mention, but if you fell into any of the groups of 'essential workers', you're kinda off the hook for most mandates.

In my case, there were lingering doubts--Switzerland locked down very late (compared to its neighbours), did so merely half-heartedly, and there was precious little fearporn I noticed. One of my then-neighbours, though, went to one of the early protests in Bern--and he provided me an earful (and then some, to be honest) about police participating in BLM protests™ with many more protesters than the small group of anti-lockdown protesters (who were, of course, dispelled by police).

Then came the relocation to Norway: few, if any, mandates were in place in summer, with little else I noticed in autumn/winter 2020/21. In-between, I had that run-in with the people doing a survey 'for the UN', followed by the tales of dying nurses. The rest, as the saying goes, is history.

As to your comment re Norwegians: I'm fully on your side here; while Austrians took to the streets in protest over the vaccine mandate, my Norwegian neighbours shouted across the street and telling everybody they got the latest jab…

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Sophia's avatar

"How does one stay sane?" Who's to say I've stayed sane? (Joke but not a joke.)

I enjoyed the pictures of Ramses and his animal friends. A mosquito by the name of HarveyFlea has chosen to create an account and follow Ramses and Gang in an attempt to beat out the Covidiots.

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epimetheus's avatar

Ah, that's two excellent points here.

Also, Ramses is super-happy about your company, esp. as spring is upon us and we're quite happy to share some scenery, too!

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Ingrun Mason's avatar

Totally correct.

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Ingrun Mason's avatar

Thank you, epimetheus, for helping to keep the fire burning. It hurts to see/know so many people who still seem to have no clue about what really happened. The real radicals are the perpetrators, not the ones defending themselves from this insanity.

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epimetheus's avatar

You write;

'The real radicals are the perpetrators, not the ones defending themselves from this insanity.'

You're correct.

I'd merely add that defence from this insanity is tantamount to defending freedom.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Bravo!

I knew it was BS in April 2020 when the rich Australians were flying around as normal and we were locked in our homes. Knew then and there it was a military operation and they were going to try and kill us somehow.

I had no idea how bad the cognitive warfare was going to get though and what I would have to do in order to survive for two years.

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epimetheus's avatar

In spring 2020, it was actually quite 'fine'--we didn't really notice many of the mandates in Switzerland; we had a small garden plot, it was warm (I recall Easter outdoors in shorts and flip-flops: it was that warm), and we spent a lot of time outdoors with out (mostly migrant) neighbours. Sure, there were some 'inconveniences' and 'oddities', incl. construction sites running like normal, but there was little in terms of enforcement (don't know about what came later in Switzerland).

The relocation, the above-related case of cancer, and everything else took over in late spring, hence I didn't pay much, if any, attention to the psy-op; to be honest, my awareness rose from early September 2020 onwards as Norway didn't lock down once more, but all Central European countries did.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

They censored what was happening to us here in early 2020 so we couldn't warn people what was coming to them. It was very similar to China.

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epimetheus's avatar

Of course they did, but they both sucked at it and couldn't imagine that the internet was enabling a lot of information coming through…

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