In Norway, the number of applicants in healthcare is rapidly shrinking, spelling big trouble for higher education, healthcare services, domestic politics, and economic development
May 17, 2022·edited May 17, 2022Liked by epimetheus
To sum up, since Sweden has the exact same situation and problems in these sectors, and for much of the same reasons (only worse - yes, really):
Politicians, having helped create this situation which has its basis in the 1970s, will now try to fix it by doing the same things that's been tried since about 1985 or thereabouts.
Before the 70s, taxation was based on household income and assets (simplified), and the general tax level while still quite high was set so as a family of a man and woman and their 2-4 children could live comfortably on one full time wage, even in lower income jobs.
During the seventies this was changed to inividual taxation, due to reasons from feminism to market capitalists wanting to dump wages by flooding the labour market to unions wanting to increasemembership (union memembership was practically mandatory back then, and as an added bonus most of the unions made you a member of the socialist democrat party no matter your own opinion). However, the welfare system still bases amounts on household assets, meaning it immediately became common for perpetual wlefare clients to separate on paper, the woman getting to keep the apartment and the man to be given a new smaller one which he then could rent out under the table (to describe just one well-known problem which no-one has tried to fix since then).
As for education, in the early nineties we switched funding methods for higher education from a set sum which university and faculty used to make budget and thus set number of available slots for students - to funding based partially on material costs such as locales which were sold off to semi-private companies owned by retired politicians and heads of university chancellery and such, these companies then renting out the university's own buildings to them (there's much more to it including how these systems means that ear-marked grants and state subsidies can be laundered and then used for whatever instead of intended purpose - all legal, of course, it's only illegal when poor people do it). This was paired with funding for students being based on number of students completing courses/graduating, making perpetually lowered standards and increased access via lowered entry bars being in the interest of the universities. Add to that political pressure to keep numbers up, since a nation with a lot of graduates and people with teritary and quarternary education is intrinsically good (said no teacher ever, knowing full well that it's quality, not quantity that counts in [higher] education).
The bit about nurses is identical too, but with a twist: swedish nurses go to Norway to work, since the pay is much higher and the working conditions much better...
Edit: obligatory self-congratulatory remark (hey, must obey Jante loven, right?):
When I sent in my application to study political science intending to become a teacher, the bar for entry was 20/20 for everyone wanting in. So in the case of more applicants than seats, lots were cast by the faculty, and one could always hope for defectors (the swedish word 'avhoppare' translates to that, hilarious I think) making room, since the first two weeks of the first semester are set up to test resolve and make sure everyone understands the commitment necessary. (The rest of the semester too, but they only told you that if you made it to second semester...)
Last time I checked (5-6 years back) the bar for entry to the "teacher's training college", where prospective teachers go nowadays, was around 1.0 to 0.3 on the national test for entry. 1.0 is waht everyone with a secondary education no matter the subject, carpentry or hairdresser or law prep, is supposed to achieve without effort; 0.3 is virtually one step above getting points for spelling your name right on the test. And the test is passed on average score - i.e. worthless.
Another part of that is Sweden starting to use multiple choice exams writ large these past 20 years. Utterly stupid. You either know, or you don't. When I was at uni, a wrong answer earned 2 points deduction, a blank slot earned one point deduction and an answer earned one point was the principle. I.e. don't guess, and know your stuff, or you'll eliminate yourself.
Sorry for spewing this out just like that but as a former taecher, and a damn good one too I think, stuff like this really sets me off. Good thing I have an old rotted outhouse needs to come down.
Best grade I ever earned was when I quit my last job. A gaggle of students happened to overhear a colleague and me chatting in the lounge (which for reasons of democracy and integration was placed smack center in the students' rec area) when I mentioned I wouldn't return after summer and in unison they blurt out: "Noooo! You can't quit! You're the only one that knows antuhing!" so that half the staff hears it.
I was walking on clouds the entire week, I tell you that for free. :)
May 18, 2022·edited May 18, 2022Liked by epimetheus
Don't know in your nations, but in mine they have been cutting budget to Public Health since beginning of 90s. If you want to know why, first ask IMF, than ask the center right parties that started the bad job, and the fake center left Democratic party that don't care of anything is Public anymore. Then you add that the money took away from Public health has been given to Private Clinics and Hospitals that enjoyed a rapid grow and a huge flux of money in 30 years.
Same happened in Education, especially Universities are now managed by manager not by famous Professors, as Public Hospitals are. Private Academies and Universities instead exploded in the last 30 years for the same reason of Health Care: a huge flux of money from State to private sector at the expenses of the public one.
So, I'm not surprised at all, of the EuroReich policies of the neo nazi European Council and Commission. Game is over, dear friend.
If you look at and follow the money, you'll see that so many were able to enrich their patrimony without having any skill or talent as never in Italian history as in the last 30 years. The tax evasion in Italy is HUGE we talking of 110 to 140 bilions of euro a year.... So were all this new wealthy criminals send their children to? Private schools. Where they go for better health assistance? Private Clinics
It's the Americanization of the ridiculously boneless European community or if you like is what the nazi of IMF and Washington ruled to the province of the UCA Empire...
But I'd like to point out something different after replaying to your article:
- The situation of nurses is not isolated, is not something new. It has to do with, again, the fast enrichment of most of the families (many txs to tax evasion) whose children don't want to do dad's job, don't want to carry on the family business, but they WANT TO GO to the UNIVERSITY!! No matter if they are good at studying, they got some special skill for it or got some sort of talent. They just want to AVOID as LONG as POSSIBLE the time they will have to WORK!.. they start at high school with ERASMUS.. 1, 2, 3 times.. great vacation, dad and mum pay!
So my brother's daughters have 2 degrees, then they went in some "exotic" University, Barcellona? It's fun! Amsterdam? Yeah! Maybe a specialization in Sweden or in Paris? Sure, why not the University for politicians were Sarkozy and many went? I'll go there!
So now, one is in her 30s, the other almost 30, but no one have a job except part time. No one went to work seasonally as we did, during summer holidays (3 months here) as we're leaving in a touristic area on the cost.
Do we need immigration for nurses? sure, for artisans? sure, for carpenters? sure, for mechanics? sure...and on and on
But my generation rarely went to Universities, mainly the child of wealthiest one or the most talented. It was bad? NOT AT ALL, why? Did we missed some talent to be a Nobel Prize? maybe.
My dad after the final exam at High School where I had totally 42 out of 60 told me "you're not going to University I tell you! " but my older sister went because she had 54/60. I then went to study Electronic Music at the Conservatory Rossini because it costed only 2 euro a year of taxes... XD (the old great public school system). While doing that I was working as sound technician in live concerts then in a Studio.
During all of my High School I've worked all the summers as waiter or barman or in a huge fresh food store for Hotels and big institutions. With that money I bought keyboard, synthesizers, tape recorder and a mixer.
Then I've worked in a new Studio as Sound Engineer for almost 3 years mixing quite a few nice records. But then I was curious about the upcoming computer graphics and animation, and I moved to Milan main city for that.
After 30 years of work, all of whom I've choose to do from waitress to film directing, I'm an happy man, satisfied of my carrier and of the many wonderful, fun, interesting people I met, worked with, fight with, build with them, in many countries of the, use to be a, wonderful world!
And I was able to save money for my recent family, for the future of my kid, for a better living but with always the exact same attitude and philosophy to save, to learn, to share.
BTW my older sister instead is keeping asking money to our old parents, she doesn't pay taxes, but she pretend to have the same as the honest ones. She's not happy of her profession, a psychologist, but she need money to send his child to Sarkozy Universty as she think he deserve it, hoping to count on him when she'll be old and retired.
Sorry to be so straight: but our spoiled children deserve all of this. ;)
In Australia professional or practical degrees - like accountancy, dentistry, law, nurse, medicine, etc - are needed to work in the those professions. The three top or most competitive degrees to get in are medicine, dentistry and law. I think with medicine in addition to having the academic score to get in, applicants must also attend interviews.
You can imagine my shock that some of the smartest people in any place or nation could be so
to some Australian Medical Association addresses. I got this, literally, from a comms adviser "UNSUBSCRIBE".
USA has made an art form of dumbing education and making it expensive at the same time! It was/is a deliberate policy to polarise and divide society between the educated elites and the rest.
As we can see, "they" are controlling and destroying institutions and governances from within - the most effective and cheapest form of destruction or warfare. They are implementing their plans with one simple trick: corruption in various forms and manifestations. Not selecting or appointing people on merits is an obvious form of corruption. No society can develop is there is too much corruption in any form. Look at the third-world countries, And the developed countries have obviously regressed by it.
To sum up, since Sweden has the exact same situation and problems in these sectors, and for much of the same reasons (only worse - yes, really):
Politicians, having helped create this situation which has its basis in the 1970s, will now try to fix it by doing the same things that's been tried since about 1985 or thereabouts.
Before the 70s, taxation was based on household income and assets (simplified), and the general tax level while still quite high was set so as a family of a man and woman and their 2-4 children could live comfortably on one full time wage, even in lower income jobs.
During the seventies this was changed to inividual taxation, due to reasons from feminism to market capitalists wanting to dump wages by flooding the labour market to unions wanting to increasemembership (union memembership was practically mandatory back then, and as an added bonus most of the unions made you a member of the socialist democrat party no matter your own opinion). However, the welfare system still bases amounts on household assets, meaning it immediately became common for perpetual wlefare clients to separate on paper, the woman getting to keep the apartment and the man to be given a new smaller one which he then could rent out under the table (to describe just one well-known problem which no-one has tried to fix since then).
As for education, in the early nineties we switched funding methods for higher education from a set sum which university and faculty used to make budget and thus set number of available slots for students - to funding based partially on material costs such as locales which were sold off to semi-private companies owned by retired politicians and heads of university chancellery and such, these companies then renting out the university's own buildings to them (there's much more to it including how these systems means that ear-marked grants and state subsidies can be laundered and then used for whatever instead of intended purpose - all legal, of course, it's only illegal when poor people do it). This was paired with funding for students being based on number of students completing courses/graduating, making perpetually lowered standards and increased access via lowered entry bars being in the interest of the universities. Add to that political pressure to keep numbers up, since a nation with a lot of graduates and people with teritary and quarternary education is intrinsically good (said no teacher ever, knowing full well that it's quality, not quantity that counts in [higher] education).
The bit about nurses is identical too, but with a twist: swedish nurses go to Norway to work, since the pay is much higher and the working conditions much better...
Edit: obligatory self-congratulatory remark (hey, must obey Jante loven, right?):
When I sent in my application to study political science intending to become a teacher, the bar for entry was 20/20 for everyone wanting in. So in the case of more applicants than seats, lots were cast by the faculty, and one could always hope for defectors (the swedish word 'avhoppare' translates to that, hilarious I think) making room, since the first two weeks of the first semester are set up to test resolve and make sure everyone understands the commitment necessary. (The rest of the semester too, but they only told you that if you made it to second semester...)
Last time I checked (5-6 years back) the bar for entry to the "teacher's training college", where prospective teachers go nowadays, was around 1.0 to 0.3 on the national test for entry. 1.0 is waht everyone with a secondary education no matter the subject, carpentry or hairdresser or law prep, is supposed to achieve without effort; 0.3 is virtually one step above getting points for spelling your name right on the test. And the test is passed on average score - i.e. worthless.
Another part of that is Sweden starting to use multiple choice exams writ large these past 20 years. Utterly stupid. You either know, or you don't. When I was at uni, a wrong answer earned 2 points deduction, a blank slot earned one point deduction and an answer earned one point was the principle. I.e. don't guess, and know your stuff, or you'll eliminate yourself.
Sorry for spewing this out just like that but as a former taecher, and a damn good one too I think, stuff like this really sets me off. Good thing I have an old rotted outhouse needs to come down.
Best grade I ever earned was when I quit my last job. A gaggle of students happened to overhear a colleague and me chatting in the lounge (which for reasons of democracy and integration was placed smack center in the students' rec area) when I mentioned I wouldn't return after summer and in unison they blurt out: "Noooo! You can't quit! You're the only one that knows antuhing!" so that half the staff hears it.
I was walking on clouds the entire week, I tell you that for free. :)
Don't know in your nations, but in mine they have been cutting budget to Public Health since beginning of 90s. If you want to know why, first ask IMF, than ask the center right parties that started the bad job, and the fake center left Democratic party that don't care of anything is Public anymore. Then you add that the money took away from Public health has been given to Private Clinics and Hospitals that enjoyed a rapid grow and a huge flux of money in 30 years.
Same happened in Education, especially Universities are now managed by manager not by famous Professors, as Public Hospitals are. Private Academies and Universities instead exploded in the last 30 years for the same reason of Health Care: a huge flux of money from State to private sector at the expenses of the public one.
So, I'm not surprised at all, of the EuroReich policies of the neo nazi European Council and Commission. Game is over, dear friend.
If you look at and follow the money, you'll see that so many were able to enrich their patrimony without having any skill or talent as never in Italian history as in the last 30 years. The tax evasion in Italy is HUGE we talking of 110 to 140 bilions of euro a year.... So were all this new wealthy criminals send their children to? Private schools. Where they go for better health assistance? Private Clinics
It's the Americanization of the ridiculously boneless European community or if you like is what the nazi of IMF and Washington ruled to the province of the UCA Empire...
But I'd like to point out something different after replaying to your article:
- The situation of nurses is not isolated, is not something new. It has to do with, again, the fast enrichment of most of the families (many txs to tax evasion) whose children don't want to do dad's job, don't want to carry on the family business, but they WANT TO GO to the UNIVERSITY!! No matter if they are good at studying, they got some special skill for it or got some sort of talent. They just want to AVOID as LONG as POSSIBLE the time they will have to WORK!.. they start at high school with ERASMUS.. 1, 2, 3 times.. great vacation, dad and mum pay!
So my brother's daughters have 2 degrees, then they went in some "exotic" University, Barcellona? It's fun! Amsterdam? Yeah! Maybe a specialization in Sweden or in Paris? Sure, why not the University for politicians were Sarkozy and many went? I'll go there!
So now, one is in her 30s, the other almost 30, but no one have a job except part time. No one went to work seasonally as we did, during summer holidays (3 months here) as we're leaving in a touristic area on the cost.
Do we need immigration for nurses? sure, for artisans? sure, for carpenters? sure, for mechanics? sure...and on and on
But my generation rarely went to Universities, mainly the child of wealthiest one or the most talented. It was bad? NOT AT ALL, why? Did we missed some talent to be a Nobel Prize? maybe.
My dad after the final exam at High School where I had totally 42 out of 60 told me "you're not going to University I tell you! " but my older sister went because she had 54/60. I then went to study Electronic Music at the Conservatory Rossini because it costed only 2 euro a year of taxes... XD (the old great public school system). While doing that I was working as sound technician in live concerts then in a Studio.
During all of my High School I've worked all the summers as waiter or barman or in a huge fresh food store for Hotels and big institutions. With that money I bought keyboard, synthesizers, tape recorder and a mixer.
Then I've worked in a new Studio as Sound Engineer for almost 3 years mixing quite a few nice records. But then I was curious about the upcoming computer graphics and animation, and I moved to Milan main city for that.
After 30 years of work, all of whom I've choose to do from waitress to film directing, I'm an happy man, satisfied of my carrier and of the many wonderful, fun, interesting people I met, worked with, fight with, build with them, in many countries of the, use to be a, wonderful world!
And I was able to save money for my recent family, for the future of my kid, for a better living but with always the exact same attitude and philosophy to save, to learn, to share.
BTW my older sister instead is keeping asking money to our old parents, she doesn't pay taxes, but she pretend to have the same as the honest ones. She's not happy of her profession, a psychologist, but she need money to send his child to Sarkozy Universty as she think he deserve it, hoping to count on him when she'll be old and retired.
Sorry to be so straight: but our spoiled children deserve all of this. ;)
Immigrants will take over sooner or later.
In Australia professional or practical degrees - like accountancy, dentistry, law, nurse, medicine, etc - are needed to work in the those professions. The three top or most competitive degrees to get in are medicine, dentistry and law. I think with medicine in addition to having the academic score to get in, applicants must also attend interviews.
You can imagine my shock that some of the smartest people in any place or nation could be so
indoctrinated and stubborn.
I chain-sent an early treatment protocol from
https://globalcovidsummit.org/treatment/a-life-saving-protocol-for-covid-recovery
to some Australian Medical Association addresses. I got this, literally, from a comms adviser "UNSUBSCRIBE".
USA has made an art form of dumbing education and making it expensive at the same time! It was/is a deliberate policy to polarise and divide society between the educated elites and the rest.
As we can see, "they" are controlling and destroying institutions and governances from within - the most effective and cheapest form of destruction or warfare. They are implementing their plans with one simple trick: corruption in various forms and manifestations. Not selecting or appointing people on merits is an obvious form of corruption. No society can develop is there is too much corruption in any form. Look at the third-world countries, And the developed countries have obviously regressed by it.
The reference to Rome Italy works for me. An ongoing fascist experiment. I can't wait for the heredity thing to come back too. Ha!