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Martin Bassani's avatar

How whole societies go mad. Straitjacket territories! I believe too many people in the West have been modified through toxic food, water and air, deliberate miseducation, constant exposure to propaganda and psy-ops. People have lost the basic survival compass. Here in the US, more schooling (on average) has made people more susceptible to psy-ops and propaganda. COVID psy-op has made this self-evident except to those who fell for it. They remain stubbornly resistant to discerning reality around them. Such people can be easily made to march toward the cliff either with enthusiasm or indifference. After all, the war is like a spa!

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epimetheus's avatar

Well, in a way, New Public Management has diverted the attention to things other than efficiency or the like. It's grift, and to keep it going, more grift is added.

As to 'education™', it's the prime example of how adding grift (the Dept. of Education) on a near-permanent base (the creeping federalisation of everything) makes the people more docile. And they pay for their own indoctrination. How convenient.

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AJLG's avatar

I had a similar thought myself… that survival instinct has been largely eroded in the western population. I see it everywhere.

But then I asked myself well why am I so concerned with the various threats besides war in Europe (unfettered immigration, gender ideology, medical tyranny, general moral decline) but when I raise it with anyone in my circle it’s ignored or I’m laughed at.

As ridiculous as it sounds I put it down to growing up in a rough neighbourhood. For the first 15/16 years of my life getting beat up and robbed was an everyday threat. Like I had to become very situationally aware. I don’t think that experience ever really left me. It’s not something I would recommend as you’re constantly on edge but you do become very attuned to danger, spotting it, actively avoiding it and when cornered… fighting back even if it’s five to one and you’re getting an arse kicking either way.

It just seems like western civilisation is unaware of the precipice that it’s on… it can’t see it, won’t see it or is so beaten down it no longer cares. It’s quite something to see this play out in real time. I just don’t want to get dragged down into the abyss because everyone else appears to be a coward or imbecile and I’m stuck on this sinking ship with them😬

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Martin Bassani's avatar

We are all in this together, like it or not. Another thing I’ve noticed is that we have largely lost the capacity to make comparisons with what we have today and what we had yesterday or yesteryear. No retrospective, no re-evaluation of one’s opinions and beliefs, ever! Only a tiny portion of population is capable of modifying their positions by testing them and admitting their previous errors. Most of the people who enthusiastically for COVID psy-op are still stuck with their original positions, unable to evaluate new evidence. I’ve totally underestimated this phenomenon. More years of schooling, generally speaking, the worse it is.

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AJLG's avatar

So it’s interesting what that Covid period did… for the first year I just couldn’t reconcile what the authorities were saying was happening and what was actually happening. I’m just saying to myself this doesn’t make sense.

Then the vaccine comes along… same story. It’s not doing what they’re saying it’s doing… in fact the cure is worse than the ‘disease’.

Anyway long story short… like you said I had to reevaluate my entire world view.

As in… ‘Oh they’re lying to us about this really major event ergo they’re probably lying to us about all major events’.

But like you alluded to many fewer people than expected made this logical leap. Not only that they became even more deeply entrenched in the bullshit.

But I guess if you have to admit to yourself it’s all horseshit then your whole world comes crashing down. Why it didn’t in my case (although it hasn’t been easy)? Maybe it comes back to growing up getting my ass kicked and developing strategies to actively avoiding that?

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Martin Bassani's avatar

I don’t know what makes some people think and others not to think, but I believe it probably had something to do with early development. The more sheltered you are in childhood and the more you were conditioned to obey “authorities” the more likely it is you will not ask any questions. I know this falls way too short of the full explanation. I have friends and family with whom I still can’t have a normal discourse about COVID and many other subjects. I don’t believe this was always so, at least not to this degree.

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Terje M's avatar

The reason they don't make the comparison is because they don't even remember the past. One would think the increased education would lead to an increased historical consciousness and an awareness of historical precedents and parallels.

But no, people are living in an eternal present. They have no recollection of what happened 20, 10, or even 5 years ago. What happened 50 years ago might as well have happened in the stone age. The exception being a simplified version of World War 2, which is harped on endlessly.

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Martin Bassani's avatar

I believe you are correct. The very idea of the past has collapsed. I wonder how increased schooling (we can hardly call it education) has an inverse effect from the expected!? I also wonder how mandatory reading of 1984 and other dystopian literature seems to have resulted in greater acceptance of totalitarianism than in creating an aversion to it.

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MaryJane's avatar

I cannot stop being amazed at this quality of attacking countries and peoples that did nothing bad to you, and somehow justify it as morally right and being "the victim" by creating the convenient image of "the enemy" that has literally nothing to do with reality. It strangely does confirm Russians to be right - if there are weapons and missiles poured to your border, it's done to be used against you. Might makes right still rules the world, we just have enough weapons to destroy the planet in the process.

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epimetheus's avatar

I suppose that there are many more weapons to do us all in; as the above--admittedly strange--piece indicates, the people allegedly running things (at the technical level) are man.

Sometimes I do wonder if those who actually run these things aren't totally mad, too.

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Rikard's avatar

A very confusing text, given her credentials. I failed to get any kind of real message of any sort from it, truth be told.

But if I pretend her completely made-up customer is real, it would signify a total submission of Germans and Germany, as well as the rest of Europe, under the GAE.

On the other hand, poll after poll show people are chomping at the bit for EU to go to war against Russia. However, numbers from the military show more than 2/3 of young men and women are in one way or another unfit for service (in many cases through feats of bureaucracy because the youth aren't interested in the slightest in dying in the GAE's war to control the rare earth minerals in Ukraine's soil).

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epimetheus's avatar

It would have been so much more cheaper to 'do a deal' than this, but then again, that kind of rationality seems to have vanished.

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Jonathan Ramsay's avatar

The belief that Russia will not use nukes is a very misguided and naive one with consequences beyond what we can imagine.

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epimetheus's avatar

I can't bring myself to 'liking' this comment, for I share your sentiment. These are utterly crazy people.

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AJLG's avatar

But then again harking back to my earlier comment above… if they’re lying to us about major events throughout history we have to ask the question… ‘do nukes even exist or do they work in the way they tell us?’

They’ve been a handy way to keep people in line. I think there’s been more cooperation behind the scenes than is being let on and events are somehow being coordinated.

Even with Ukraine… peace talks have been avoided, Russia hasn’t escalated yet this is all the west is trying to do (I’m pretty sure they could carpet bomb the place if they wanted and end it tomorrow) and things just slowly drag on (probably something to do with the 26 trillion in minerals and rare earth minerals under their soil?)

I can’t definitively say nukes do or don’t exist but it’s increasingly obvious the whole world’s a stage.

Time will tell…

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epimetheus's avatar

I've seen these kinds of musings, but I remain rather hesitant as to whether or not I wish to find out…

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AJLG's avatar

Like I said it’s hard to discern what is true and what is not…

Here’s one such musing…

https://open.substack.com/pub/thedukereport/p/exposing-the-real-story-of-hiroshima?r=y77rm&utm_medium=ios

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epimetheus's avatar

Thanks for the link—very interesting stuff, no doubt about that.

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