They may try to coerce the young into caring for the elderly for terrible pay (e.g. via some sort of national service). However, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: no country can survive as a gigantic nursing home. Something's got to give, and my guess is that one way or another, we'll just live shorter lives (on average). This is bad, but it's not all bad. My grandmother, for instance, would have been massively better off if modern medicine hadn't "saved her life" and extended her life by those two utterly miserable years. This sort of "gift" is pretty standard now, and it may just become a thing of the past, as care gets rationed.
That's more what I think will happen ('national service') for care homes or the like.
Your point--'no country can survive as a gigantic nursing home'--is very well taken, as is the 'slide' at those 'marvels' of 'modern medicine™'.
It does all point towards a form of rationing of services, state-dictated entry into professions (which will look like 'Feudalism', granted, but it ain't so), and, generally, much more intrusion of both 'state' and 'corporations' (think: 'Alexa' or the like) into what remains of the privacy (sic) of homes.
Short term, there may indeed be ever more invasion of privacy. But that sort of thing is expensive. As our civilization declines, you're more likely to see simple neglect.
I for one don't see any problem. There will - temporarily - be a surplus of elderly citizens. Any "problem" with tis has its own built-in solution, which humans cannot effect: people die. A new equilibrium will be reached on its own in a few decades anyway, so nothing needs doing at all except temporary measures re: health care/nursing homes.
Labour market, property values, et cetera will adjust on their own if the state and the capitalists just let them, and instead of trying to dictate what will happen instead adapt to what is ahppening and what the new normal will eventually stabilise as.
Hubristic shortsightedness and the silly belief that you can achieve some kind of permanent state of being for a nation.
"In 2040, Statistics Norway (SSB) estimates that there will be just over 6 million people living in Norway, almost half a million more than today."
Yeah, that's not happening. Norway will be pried open for invasion-migration no matter what the norwegians want. Look at Finland - 15-20 years ago, they were more restrictive than Hungary is today. Then, the lobbying from globalists and the EU took off, and now after heavy feminisation of politics for the last two decades they are rapidly approaching Sweden's state of societal suicide.
Agreed on the content, but I'd merely point to two aspects here:
First, does the above piece strike you as the gov't endeavouring to 'just let them [be]'? If anything, this strikes me as the announcement of 'Covid' all over again, with 'them' monitoring/dictating everything, as in: 'oh, you had a second ice cream that day? Too bad, no more gov't services for you for a week'.
As to mass immigration-invasion (present company included), Norway's 'immigrant population share' stands at 16.8% as of 2024, as Statistics Norway maintains:
As far as I know, the robots the Japanese are testing are not intended to completely replace human caretakers, leaving the elderly with nobody but the robots to socialise with, but to automate tasks the caretakers were doing, leaving them with more time to spend actually talking to the elderly, instead of cleaning their floors, folding their laundry, etc. So it may not end up as sad as you predict, but only time will tell.
You raise fair points; given the way robots are developed, though (think: Boston Dynamics 'Terminator' robots), I'd think that these chores might be 'co-incidental' to their true purpose.
Another issue I'd raise is the willingness of strangers, for often meagre pay, to (pretend to) 'care' for elderly care home residents. It's bad enough as it is, I'd argue, and I fear this will turn from bad to worse before too long ('let R2D2 do this').
They may try to coerce the young into caring for the elderly for terrible pay (e.g. via some sort of national service). However, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: no country can survive as a gigantic nursing home. Something's got to give, and my guess is that one way or another, we'll just live shorter lives (on average). This is bad, but it's not all bad. My grandmother, for instance, would have been massively better off if modern medicine hadn't "saved her life" and extended her life by those two utterly miserable years. This sort of "gift" is pretty standard now, and it may just become a thing of the past, as care gets rationed.
That's more what I think will happen ('national service') for care homes or the like.
Your point--'no country can survive as a gigantic nursing home'--is very well taken, as is the 'slide' at those 'marvels' of 'modern medicine™'.
It does all point towards a form of rationing of services, state-dictated entry into professions (which will look like 'Feudalism', granted, but it ain't so), and, generally, much more intrusion of both 'state' and 'corporations' (think: 'Alexa' or the like) into what remains of the privacy (sic) of homes.
Short term, there may indeed be ever more invasion of privacy. But that sort of thing is expensive. As our civilization declines, you're more likely to see simple neglect.
Fair point, no arguments there.
As to 'neglect', well, that's already happening, so…
I for one don't see any problem. There will - temporarily - be a surplus of elderly citizens. Any "problem" with tis has its own built-in solution, which humans cannot effect: people die. A new equilibrium will be reached on its own in a few decades anyway, so nothing needs doing at all except temporary measures re: health care/nursing homes.
Labour market, property values, et cetera will adjust on their own if the state and the capitalists just let them, and instead of trying to dictate what will happen instead adapt to what is ahppening and what the new normal will eventually stabilise as.
Hubristic shortsightedness and the silly belief that you can achieve some kind of permanent state of being for a nation.
"In 2040, Statistics Norway (SSB) estimates that there will be just over 6 million people living in Norway, almost half a million more than today."
Yeah, that's not happening. Norway will be pried open for invasion-migration no matter what the norwegians want. Look at Finland - 15-20 years ago, they were more restrictive than Hungary is today. Then, the lobbying from globalists and the EU took off, and now after heavy feminisation of politics for the last two decades they are rapidly approaching Sweden's state of societal suicide.
Agreed on the content, but I'd merely point to two aspects here:
First, does the above piece strike you as the gov't endeavouring to 'just let them [be]'? If anything, this strikes me as the announcement of 'Covid' all over again, with 'them' monitoring/dictating everything, as in: 'oh, you had a second ice cream that day? Too bad, no more gov't services for you for a week'.
As to mass immigration-invasion (present company included), Norway's 'immigrant population share' stands at 16.8% as of 2024, as Statistics Norway maintains:
https://www.ssb.no/innvandring-og-innvandrere/faktaside/innvandring
So, no worries, your Nordic neighbours are merely a step or two 'behind' Sweden.
As far as I know, the robots the Japanese are testing are not intended to completely replace human caretakers, leaving the elderly with nobody but the robots to socialise with, but to automate tasks the caretakers were doing, leaving them with more time to spend actually talking to the elderly, instead of cleaning their floors, folding their laundry, etc. So it may not end up as sad as you predict, but only time will tell.
You raise fair points; given the way robots are developed, though (think: Boston Dynamics 'Terminator' robots), I'd think that these chores might be 'co-incidental' to their true purpose.
Another issue I'd raise is the willingness of strangers, for often meagre pay, to (pretend to) 'care' for elderly care home residents. It's bad enough as it is, I'd argue, and I fear this will turn from bad to worse before too long ('let R2D2 do this').
Still, we'll eventually find out, isn't it?