Austrian State Broadcaster ORF confirms that there are, in fact, Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, Background on the Maidan Putsch, and a Trip down the Rabbit Hole of Anti-Russian Agit-Prop in German media
I feel that this article published on thelastamericanvagabond dot com called "Ukraine and the New Al Qaeda" sheds a lot of light on the developments we see and why some groups are "good" and some are "bad". Was very eye-opening, and, frankly, scary.
It starts with:
"As the conflict between Ukraine and Russia continues to escalate and dominate the world’s attention, the increasing evidence that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is and has been working to create and arm an insurgency in the country has received considerably little attention considering its likely consequences. This is particularly true given that former CIA officials and a former Secretary of State are now openly saying that the CIA is following the “models” of past CIA-backed insurgencies in Afghanistan and Syria for its plans in Ukraine. Given that those countries have been ravaged by war as a direct result of those insurgencies, this bodes poorly for Ukraine.
Yet, this insurgency is poised to have consequences that reach far beyond Ukraine. It increasingly appears that the CIA sees the insurgency it is creating as more than an opportunity to take its hybrid war against Russia ever closer to its borders. As this report will show, it appears the CIA is determined to manifest a prophecy propagated by its own ranks over the past two years. This prediction from former and current intelligence officials dates from at least early 2020 and holds that a “transnational white supremacist network” with alleged ties to the Ukraine conflict will be the next global catastrophe to befall the world as the threat of Covid-19 recedes.
Per these “predictions”, this global network of white supremacists – allegedly with a group linked to the conflict in the Donbas region of Ukraine at its core – is to become the new Islamic State-style threat and will undoubtedly be used as the pretext to launch the still-dormant infrastructure set up last year by the US government under President Biden for an Orwellian “War on Domestic Terror.”
Given that this CIA-driven effort to build an insurgency in Ukraine began as far back as 2015 and that the groups it has trained (and continues to train) include those with overt Neo-Nazi connections, it seems that this “coming Ukrainian insurgency,” as it has been recently called, is already here. In that context, we are left with the unnerving possibility that this latest escalation of the Ukraine-Russia conflict has merely served as the opening act for the newest iteration of the seemingly endless “War on Terror.” "
this is a very valid point, esp. the Orwellian notion of 'Oceania having always been at war with Eurasia', that is, until the fronts switch (are turned upside down). The point about the domestic 'front' is particularly important, I think, for we will quite likely see the (further) 'weaponisation' of the outright criminalisation of domestic dissent that characterised the most recent months with respect to all matters Covid-19 to play a much bigger role in the future.
The crimes and consequences of empire abroad are (finally) coming home: I suspect more domestic repression is in the making as the conflict in Ukraine continues. Perhaps people like Paul Craig Roberts are correct in their assessment that a quick and decisive Russian victory (Ukrainian capitulation) might prevent more bloodshed--but I'd also caution that even if that would occur, the (compensatory) crack-down on domestic dissidents in 'the West' might be even worse as the powers that be don't really need the hoi polloi as cannon-fodder.
Neo-nazis are so useful; if they didn't exist, we would have to invent them...
Leaving aside the horrible fact that there's actually a war going on in Ukraine, Putin's way of arguing is not so different from that of the new German minister of the interior, Nancy Faeser, who has made the "Kampf gegen rechts" her only goal.
As regards the 'Struggle vs. the Right', though, I'd add that Mr. Putin's arguments, as per the above 'reasoning', appear a bit more fact-based, though. This must not be understood as me questioning Ms. Faeser's self-perception or conviction, but I am saying that her statement is quite… something, esp. considering that Germany is shipping weapons to the actual Neo-Nazis in the Donbass, which the Russian troops and the Donbass troops are fighting against…
In this particular context, I'm constantly reminded of Max Horkheimer's pithy dictum: 'He has nothing useful to say about fascism who is unwilling to mention capitalism.'
Strange how this appears more truthful today than half a century ago.
Ah, but we're shipping 40-year old weapons from GDR stock that the Bundeswehr is not allowed to use anymore. I see a plan there...
To entertain the Neo-Nazi narrative in Germany, you only need very little fuel. For example, two years ago a deluded individual (you might call him a Neo-Nazi, but he also had serious mental issues) killed nine people of foreign origin in Hanau. Horrible deed, yes, but I am not aware of any further incident in the meantime. Ms. Faeser is very proud that she can rattle off the names of the nine victims.
Hihi, that particular thought crossed my mind, too: let's get rid of both obsolete equipment *and* our own Neo-Nazis. It's a win-win scenario for Ms. Faeser and her ilk, so, perhaps this entire international crisis is actually not much more than an attempt to get rid of certain unhappy things of (domestic) politics…
I feel that this article published on thelastamericanvagabond dot com called "Ukraine and the New Al Qaeda" sheds a lot of light on the developments we see and why some groups are "good" and some are "bad". Was very eye-opening, and, frankly, scary.
It starts with:
"As the conflict between Ukraine and Russia continues to escalate and dominate the world’s attention, the increasing evidence that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is and has been working to create and arm an insurgency in the country has received considerably little attention considering its likely consequences. This is particularly true given that former CIA officials and a former Secretary of State are now openly saying that the CIA is following the “models” of past CIA-backed insurgencies in Afghanistan and Syria for its plans in Ukraine. Given that those countries have been ravaged by war as a direct result of those insurgencies, this bodes poorly for Ukraine.
Yet, this insurgency is poised to have consequences that reach far beyond Ukraine. It increasingly appears that the CIA sees the insurgency it is creating as more than an opportunity to take its hybrid war against Russia ever closer to its borders. As this report will show, it appears the CIA is determined to manifest a prophecy propagated by its own ranks over the past two years. This prediction from former and current intelligence officials dates from at least early 2020 and holds that a “transnational white supremacist network” with alleged ties to the Ukraine conflict will be the next global catastrophe to befall the world as the threat of Covid-19 recedes.
Per these “predictions”, this global network of white supremacists – allegedly with a group linked to the conflict in the Donbas region of Ukraine at its core – is to become the new Islamic State-style threat and will undoubtedly be used as the pretext to launch the still-dormant infrastructure set up last year by the US government under President Biden for an Orwellian “War on Domestic Terror.”
Given that this CIA-driven effort to build an insurgency in Ukraine began as far back as 2015 and that the groups it has trained (and continues to train) include those with overt Neo-Nazi connections, it seems that this “coming Ukrainian insurgency,” as it has been recently called, is already here. In that context, we are left with the unnerving possibility that this latest escalation of the Ukraine-Russia conflict has merely served as the opening act for the newest iteration of the seemingly endless “War on Terror.” "
Hi samghjk,
this is a very valid point, esp. the Orwellian notion of 'Oceania having always been at war with Eurasia', that is, until the fronts switch (are turned upside down). The point about the domestic 'front' is particularly important, I think, for we will quite likely see the (further) 'weaponisation' of the outright criminalisation of domestic dissent that characterised the most recent months with respect to all matters Covid-19 to play a much bigger role in the future.
The crimes and consequences of empire abroad are (finally) coming home: I suspect more domestic repression is in the making as the conflict in Ukraine continues. Perhaps people like Paul Craig Roberts are correct in their assessment that a quick and decisive Russian victory (Ukrainian capitulation) might prevent more bloodshed--but I'd also caution that even if that would occur, the (compensatory) crack-down on domestic dissidents in 'the West' might be even worse as the powers that be don't really need the hoi polloi as cannon-fodder.
Neo-nazis are so useful; if they didn't exist, we would have to invent them...
Leaving aside the horrible fact that there's actually a war going on in Ukraine, Putin's way of arguing is not so different from that of the new German minister of the interior, Nancy Faeser, who has made the "Kampf gegen rechts" her only goal.
Agreed on both points.
As regards the 'Struggle vs. the Right', though, I'd add that Mr. Putin's arguments, as per the above 'reasoning', appear a bit more fact-based, though. This must not be understood as me questioning Ms. Faeser's self-perception or conviction, but I am saying that her statement is quite… something, esp. considering that Germany is shipping weapons to the actual Neo-Nazis in the Donbass, which the Russian troops and the Donbass troops are fighting against…
In this particular context, I'm constantly reminded of Max Horkheimer's pithy dictum: 'He has nothing useful to say about fascism who is unwilling to mention capitalism.'
Strange how this appears more truthful today than half a century ago.
Ah, but we're shipping 40-year old weapons from GDR stock that the Bundeswehr is not allowed to use anymore. I see a plan there...
To entertain the Neo-Nazi narrative in Germany, you only need very little fuel. For example, two years ago a deluded individual (you might call him a Neo-Nazi, but he also had serious mental issues) killed nine people of foreign origin in Hanau. Horrible deed, yes, but I am not aware of any further incident in the meantime. Ms. Faeser is very proud that she can rattle off the names of the nine victims.
Hihi, that particular thought crossed my mind, too: let's get rid of both obsolete equipment *and* our own Neo-Nazis. It's a win-win scenario for Ms. Faeser and her ilk, so, perhaps this entire international crisis is actually not much more than an attempt to get rid of certain unhappy things of (domestic) politics…