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Rikard's avatar

He's right too.

But he is right not from an angle of the new Green being a warlike ideological soup (it is but it didn't start out that way), but from a different one:

The personalities - the ambulatory psychological pathologies - making up the leadership-cadres of the post-1980s Greens are what makes them this way, and they in turn have changed their own ideology into what it is today.

The divide between pre-2000s and post-1980s is very clear.

The earlier crop was focused on personal freedom, yes, but as a collective. It didn't trust the state anymore than it trusted the capital to have a care about pollution, habitat destruction or species being made extinct, or biologists playing LEGO with genetics.

The issues were real, tangible and measurable.

The change-over started with the ozone-hole panic, blaming of all things refrigerators and hair-spray use and warning that "when all of China and Africa and India wants a refrigerator the planet will die".

I remember it well.

From then, the pathological personalities having been the ones given more and more room and power, for a host of reasons.

epimetheus's avatar

The Greens were marched through the institutions, and those who transformed their views in so doing--exhibit A would be Joschka Fischer (formerly German foreign minister under Schröder)--acquired new masters whose bidding they are doing.

Mr. Fischer and his ilk were the idols (pun intended) of their successors, the likes of Mr. Habeck or Ms. Baerbock.

The earlier crop was also heavily pedo-leaning (e.g., Daniel Cohn-Bendit), and they were far-leftish revolutionaries who adopted the rules of their erstwhile enemies, such as the other bourgeois democrats. In any event, the Greens merely did what the SPD had done at the 1906 Mannheim convention: they became part of the system.…

Willard Hall's avatar

I was under the impression that Henry Ford and IBM industrialized the Nazi war machine in Germany.

epimetheus's avatar

Partially correct, albeit for other reasons (money).

Pre-WW1 Germany was dominated by 4 groups: the military (army), the large landowners (Junkers), the business elites (many were secularised/converted Jews), and the bureaucracy; none of these groups vanished in the defeat of 1918, and they continued to control what, after West Germany re-emerged in the wake of WW2, remained of the country (and, arguably, ever since). Yes, the military's role isn't as visible as it was a century ago, and neither do the Junkers exist as a class anymore--but it's obvious that the business elites and bureaucracy are still there.

Willard Hall's avatar

Like Amelia Earhart, Henry Ford was antisemitic, in a kind of provincial techno-progressive manner.