What's good for the Norsemen, is good for the other Nordics--why claims of 'victory' may be premature, with plenty of (earlier) indications from Norway
The state of Mississippi did the same recently. Tennessee, ivermectin OTC, and New Hampshire ivermectin through a doctor. With 26 states considering similar legislation. The Eu and BG next hopefully?
Txs! Nice "investogation"... agree on your doubts and conclusions. It'll also depend from Ukraina tv serie.... sory for my sarcasm but they deserve it, especially Nato and its leader.
For many of your points you described, time has come to shut down EU or at least EU Commission as it is/has been.
"Generally speaking, Scandinavian governments and public authorities appear also somewhat more reactive (responsive) to public opinion..." Possibly due to having lots and lots of small parties in parliament, necessitating broad compromises? Especially for Denmark, with its 2% of the votes bar for entry, compromise and attentiveness to voters' opinions are important.
And this is very true, and carries far deeper implications than one might think:
"...they are quite transparent about what they will do and won’t do."
To say something and then not do it, is a sure way to lose all respect - to lose face if you will - and to lie about it is even worse. Due to the almost chinese level of corporativism in swedish media, our *ssholes-in-office have it far easier than their bemused counterparts, and are very much annoyed that other nordic media 1) writes honestly about our problems (183 police hospitalised after the moslems' Easter riots, reported in state media as being Rasmus Paludan's fault...) and 2) that swedes can and will read norwegian and danish and finnish media (the finns being the most polite people on Earth translates most all of their news to swedish for the benefit of the bilingual minority in Finland).
And frankly, a great many politicians are total broilers having come up from the party-jugend and have zero real life experience, meaning they aren't allowed to direct or even speak with media without oversight from some greasy grey eminence called "assistant". As proof, I offer former PM Löfven's words to John Kerry when Löfven's minder was too far away from him: "We're not drunk yet".
That might fly, might even be endearing and is in line with how Löfven was painted as a "regular working man" (which he never has been, he's been a union creature since age 16) here in Sweden, but at the table with the most powerful men in the most powerful nation, coming off as a country bumpkin just makes you look uncouth, retarded, and silly.
The danes are not stupid and have a long history of looking at their larger neighbours - not to mimic them, but to see what they do. The danes then make sure to learn from the mistaks of others (Germany and Sweden mainly)and then makes not to make those mistakes themselves.
Agreed on many issues--esp. the glancing sideways issue.
You know, it's not really about 'them' not telling; the problem is 'them' not reacting they did, or may have pretended to do, in earlier times. This is what's and why 'this time is different'.
Re the Löfven episode: I recall something vaguely similar: former Austrian chancellor (and SP party hack--spent his entire life there, groomed since he joined as a teen) Faymann who, upon becoming chancellor, even declined invitations to English-language 'meet'n'greets': he couldn't participate due to lack of English skills.
Re the Danes: sure, let's watch them, as Swedes and Norwegians do. Earlier today, I told my father-in-law about these issues and mentioned the difference between Sweden and Norway would be, as far as I can see it, that the Swedish elites (here's looking at you, Anders Tegnell) bragged about their policies; the Norwegians didn't, but ± did the same, perhaps without the geriatricide (so far).
Oh, there is much to blame Tegnell for, but the Covid-response isn't his only fault (nor is it his fault alone): his initial instructions (as opposed to what media referenced in 2 hour interviews cut to pieces to fit a 2 minute news item) was to monitor progress in China, keep an eye out for cases in Sweden, isolate those infected, and in general accept that this is a new virus, there will be a toll and it will be higher than normal flu season, and be upfront with it. Be calm, collected, don't speculate, and don't (spread) panic - especially not authorities and mass media. Fat chance of that.
He was soon given a talk-to, delivered via his old boss Giesecke and fell in line; the alternative was him being replaced.
F.e. he was dead set against masking and lockdowns, pointing out that it doesn't work for such a virus and not in the circumstances outside the lab. Not surpising to me, since I have read his acceptance speech into the swedish armed forces' scientific committee: a speech he gave nigh on 15 years ago, on the topic of pandemics and how to handle them.
However, Tegnell used to do work for Glaxo-Smith Kline and was largely responsible for the fiasco and scandal surrounding the swine flu hoopla, which looking back looks like a dress rehearsal for how media induces panic in the populace who then clamours for politicians to do something, anything, won't somebody think of the children, and the politicians not really knowing Jack from sh*t re: other things than politicking, franticly jumps on the first expert-entrepreneur offering a quick fix.
And once that happens, the politicians can't back down. Windmills, solar power, plastic bag tax in Sweden saves rivers in China - you name it, they'll behave like Ahab while pulling the rest of us down with them.
What I largely blame Tegnell for is caving - he should have stuck to his guns as a medical doctor and epidemiologist, called a public press conference, live online, and simply informed the public that he has been given verbal instructions contrary to his professional knowledge and ethics, and made his position available.
The socialist democrats would either have replaced him (which they did anyway, hoping the blame will stick to his name) or sacrificed a pawn, either a noob in the party or an oldster with a bad rep. (Just like rabbits: they will if they suspect predators outside the burrow kick out a baby or an old rabbit - either way it's awin/win for the ones doing the kicking.)
"Watch the danes" comes naturally to a swede, given our history. Both because we know they are shrewder than us and there's nothing a dane likes more than showing up a swede in anything, and because they are "selv nok". Ask a norwegian to explain that, because we don't have the expression in swedish: we say "var som folk" instead, "be like (the) people" - "Wahr so als Völker sollt" which is probably horribly ungrammatical.
Re Tegnell: it is said that one learns about someone's character if put in charge (and duress). It's sad, but in the end--I don't know why he didn't see it coming, i.e., that he was on the jump seat anyways and ran with his own training, experiences, and expertise? In other words: convictions that run skin-deep (if ever so far), opportunism, and no civic responsibility whatsoever. It's disgusting.
He should have 'seen' that he was the fall guy anyway, which makes my distaste of him and those like him (here's looking at, Preben Aavitsland, specifically, since you also mentioned the 2009 swine ful 'pandemic' affair)-
Re 'selv nok': bruahahaha, that one really made my day, thanks a lot. Coming from a small-ish country with bigger-ish neighbourgs we countrymen occasionally point to for 'inspiration' (one if it suits them, though) may actually reveal a pan-European pattern of shared…abdication of responsibility and shame, first for oneself and latterly for the common good. And now I'm speaking of disgusting things again, apologies, my friend.
The strictest level is not good news and since the entire planet is just off considering the strictest levels I don't have much hope for citizens in general of a best case scenario from this point. But Good news is possible! Thanks for breaking this news down. As an aside, the rush to present new information to attract more followers, to be the first, is a challenge in the respect of verifying the news.
Are you publishing for money, I mean, how do you expect to be compensated for the time? You need paid subscriptions?
I understand the 'why they do it' aspect, and I'm glad you find the above information useful.
Sure, I'd love more followers etc., but I'm unsure my 'style' is suffienctly 'catchy'. Then again, el gato malo's style is quite similar, so, there is that.
I don't publish for money. While I won't rule it out in the future, I don't 'need' payment for my writing. Also, right now, I don't think that the readership is big enough to warrant such a change.
Fact is, I like writing, and I kinda also like putting substance and nuance to my arguments, which means I'm unsure how many people would like to pay for this.
So far, you may consider this my spare-time activity.
Thanks for reading, commenting, and discussing ^_^
We'll see how I fare in the end, but I like this, and I don't need to do it. Some times, though, the record needs to be corrected, which is when and where I come in.
'With the injections being so "safe and effective, even against omicron", it´s difficult to recommend more boosters against omicron since most people have either already had the safe and effective injection, or they have had omicron, or both.'
I think they must try as hard as possible to avoid any questions to emerge, hence their temporary reluctance to talk about any of these issues at-all.
As such, I think that the key ingredient isn't really 'how the virus will evolve', but rather how bad is the fall-out going to be, and how far (and fast) will people catch on?
I suspect that the immune suppression issue, couple with a lot of 'ancillary' illnesses that feed into increased all-cause mortality, will do the 'trick' here. Add 'some measures', such as reduced accessibility of healthcare services (think: delayed cancer screenings and the like) will do their part--et voilà: an 'explanation'.
The fact that it wouldn't be able to withstand scrutiny wouldn't matter, as for the Big Lie to succeed, it suffices to have it contain small truth-nuggets that at least seem plausible.
We're well beyond the point where, in earlier times, the courts would have gotten involved, hence, don't place any trust in 'the system' to eventually work. It won't.
The state of Mississippi did the same recently. Tennessee, ivermectin OTC, and New Hampshire ivermectin through a doctor. With 26 states considering similar legislation. The Eu and BG next hopefully?
Here's hope, for if the US feds change, most of Europe will follow (as lap-dogs typically do).
Txs! Nice "investogation"... agree on your doubts and conclusions. It'll also depend from Ukraina tv serie.... sory for my sarcasm but they deserve it, especially Nato and its leader.
For many of your points you described, time has come to shut down EU or at least EU Commission as it is/has been.
have a nice wend!
Hear, hear, I second that motion.
Have a nice weekend, too, but make sure to check out today's post before you sign off ^_^
"Generally speaking, Scandinavian governments and public authorities appear also somewhat more reactive (responsive) to public opinion..." Possibly due to having lots and lots of small parties in parliament, necessitating broad compromises? Especially for Denmark, with its 2% of the votes bar for entry, compromise and attentiveness to voters' opinions are important.
And this is very true, and carries far deeper implications than one might think:
"...they are quite transparent about what they will do and won’t do."
To say something and then not do it, is a sure way to lose all respect - to lose face if you will - and to lie about it is even worse. Due to the almost chinese level of corporativism in swedish media, our *ssholes-in-office have it far easier than their bemused counterparts, and are very much annoyed that other nordic media 1) writes honestly about our problems (183 police hospitalised after the moslems' Easter riots, reported in state media as being Rasmus Paludan's fault...) and 2) that swedes can and will read norwegian and danish and finnish media (the finns being the most polite people on Earth translates most all of their news to swedish for the benefit of the bilingual minority in Finland).
And frankly, a great many politicians are total broilers having come up from the party-jugend and have zero real life experience, meaning they aren't allowed to direct or even speak with media without oversight from some greasy grey eminence called "assistant". As proof, I offer former PM Löfven's words to John Kerry when Löfven's minder was too far away from him: "We're not drunk yet".
That might fly, might even be endearing and is in line with how Löfven was painted as a "regular working man" (which he never has been, he's been a union creature since age 16) here in Sweden, but at the table with the most powerful men in the most powerful nation, coming off as a country bumpkin just makes you look uncouth, retarded, and silly.
The danes are not stupid and have a long history of looking at their larger neighbours - not to mimic them, but to see what they do. The danes then make sure to learn from the mistaks of others (Germany and Sweden mainly)and then makes not to make those mistakes themselves.
Keep watching Denmark in other areas too.
Agreed on many issues--esp. the glancing sideways issue.
You know, it's not really about 'them' not telling; the problem is 'them' not reacting they did, or may have pretended to do, in earlier times. This is what's and why 'this time is different'.
Re the Löfven episode: I recall something vaguely similar: former Austrian chancellor (and SP party hack--spent his entire life there, groomed since he joined as a teen) Faymann who, upon becoming chancellor, even declined invitations to English-language 'meet'n'greets': he couldn't participate due to lack of English skills.
Re the Danes: sure, let's watch them, as Swedes and Norwegians do. Earlier today, I told my father-in-law about these issues and mentioned the difference between Sweden and Norway would be, as far as I can see it, that the Swedish elites (here's looking at you, Anders Tegnell) bragged about their policies; the Norwegians didn't, but ± did the same, perhaps without the geriatricide (so far).
Oh, there is much to blame Tegnell for, but the Covid-response isn't his only fault (nor is it his fault alone): his initial instructions (as opposed to what media referenced in 2 hour interviews cut to pieces to fit a 2 minute news item) was to monitor progress in China, keep an eye out for cases in Sweden, isolate those infected, and in general accept that this is a new virus, there will be a toll and it will be higher than normal flu season, and be upfront with it. Be calm, collected, don't speculate, and don't (spread) panic - especially not authorities and mass media. Fat chance of that.
He was soon given a talk-to, delivered via his old boss Giesecke and fell in line; the alternative was him being replaced.
F.e. he was dead set against masking and lockdowns, pointing out that it doesn't work for such a virus and not in the circumstances outside the lab. Not surpising to me, since I have read his acceptance speech into the swedish armed forces' scientific committee: a speech he gave nigh on 15 years ago, on the topic of pandemics and how to handle them.
However, Tegnell used to do work for Glaxo-Smith Kline and was largely responsible for the fiasco and scandal surrounding the swine flu hoopla, which looking back looks like a dress rehearsal for how media induces panic in the populace who then clamours for politicians to do something, anything, won't somebody think of the children, and the politicians not really knowing Jack from sh*t re: other things than politicking, franticly jumps on the first expert-entrepreneur offering a quick fix.
And once that happens, the politicians can't back down. Windmills, solar power, plastic bag tax in Sweden saves rivers in China - you name it, they'll behave like Ahab while pulling the rest of us down with them.
What I largely blame Tegnell for is caving - he should have stuck to his guns as a medical doctor and epidemiologist, called a public press conference, live online, and simply informed the public that he has been given verbal instructions contrary to his professional knowledge and ethics, and made his position available.
The socialist democrats would either have replaced him (which they did anyway, hoping the blame will stick to his name) or sacrificed a pawn, either a noob in the party or an oldster with a bad rep. (Just like rabbits: they will if they suspect predators outside the burrow kick out a baby or an old rabbit - either way it's awin/win for the ones doing the kicking.)
"Watch the danes" comes naturally to a swede, given our history. Both because we know they are shrewder than us and there's nothing a dane likes more than showing up a swede in anything, and because they are "selv nok". Ask a norwegian to explain that, because we don't have the expression in swedish: we say "var som folk" instead, "be like (the) people" - "Wahr so als Völker sollt" which is probably horribly ungrammatical.
Re Tegnell: it is said that one learns about someone's character if put in charge (and duress). It's sad, but in the end--I don't know why he didn't see it coming, i.e., that he was on the jump seat anyways and ran with his own training, experiences, and expertise? In other words: convictions that run skin-deep (if ever so far), opportunism, and no civic responsibility whatsoever. It's disgusting.
He should have 'seen' that he was the fall guy anyway, which makes my distaste of him and those like him (here's looking at, Preben Aavitsland, specifically, since you also mentioned the 2009 swine ful 'pandemic' affair)-
Re 'selv nok': bruahahaha, that one really made my day, thanks a lot. Coming from a small-ish country with bigger-ish neighbourgs we countrymen occasionally point to for 'inspiration' (one if it suits them, though) may actually reveal a pan-European pattern of shared…abdication of responsibility and shame, first for oneself and latterly for the common good. And now I'm speaking of disgusting things again, apologies, my friend.
The strictest level is not good news and since the entire planet is just off considering the strictest levels I don't have much hope for citizens in general of a best case scenario from this point. But Good news is possible! Thanks for breaking this news down. As an aside, the rush to present new information to attract more followers, to be the first, is a challenge in the respect of verifying the news.
Are you publishing for money, I mean, how do you expect to be compensated for the time? You need paid subscriptions?
I understand the 'why they do it' aspect, and I'm glad you find the above information useful.
Sure, I'd love more followers etc., but I'm unsure my 'style' is suffienctly 'catchy'. Then again, el gato malo's style is quite similar, so, there is that.
I don't publish for money. While I won't rule it out in the future, I don't 'need' payment for my writing. Also, right now, I don't think that the readership is big enough to warrant such a change.
Fact is, I like writing, and I kinda also like putting substance and nuance to my arguments, which means I'm unsure how many people would like to pay for this.
So far, you may consider this my spare-time activity.
Thanks for reading, commenting, and discussing ^_^
I am definitely reading your stack for the 'substance and nuance' aka details that are glossed over and ignored elsewhere, so keep up the good work!
This is very kind to say, thanks a lot!
Ok. Seems like the best way to get more followers is to claim everyone is about to die, or how to make more money and live like a megalomaniac. Ha!
Well, no comment needed, right?
We'll see how I fare in the end, but I like this, and I don't need to do it. Some times, though, the record needs to be corrected, which is when and where I come in.
In a nutshell--I agree with your assessment:
'With the injections being so "safe and effective, even against omicron", it´s difficult to recommend more boosters against omicron since most people have either already had the safe and effective injection, or they have had omicron, or both.'
I think they must try as hard as possible to avoid any questions to emerge, hence their temporary reluctance to talk about any of these issues at-all.
As such, I think that the key ingredient isn't really 'how the virus will evolve', but rather how bad is the fall-out going to be, and how far (and fast) will people catch on?
I suspect that the immune suppression issue, couple with a lot of 'ancillary' illnesses that feed into increased all-cause mortality, will do the 'trick' here. Add 'some measures', such as reduced accessibility of healthcare services (think: delayed cancer screenings and the like) will do their part--et voilà: an 'explanation'.
The fact that it wouldn't be able to withstand scrutiny wouldn't matter, as for the Big Lie to succeed, it suffices to have it contain small truth-nuggets that at least seem plausible.
We're well beyond the point where, in earlier times, the courts would have gotten involved, hence, don't place any trust in 'the system' to eventually work. It won't.