A tale of hubris, lack of empathy and professionalism, questionable morality on display by an Ethics Professor, and tacit admissions of collossal policy failures
As an unvaccinated Briton with an unvaccinated wife and unvaccinated children of university age I can only commend those Austrians who have stood strong against this insanity.
Re: people getting injected so they could go on vacation
I've been thinking about this. This was a big thing early on, but right now, take it with a grain of salt. First of all, the source of information (an enthusiastic injector who despises the uninjected) is not necessarily all that reliable. It's possible that that people say they need to "travel," and he says it's for a "vacation." (There are all sorts of reasons why people might want/need to travel, and vacationing is just one of them.) Moreover, not all "vacationing" is made equal. For one person, it means a packaged tour to some exotic destination somewhere, just because. For another, it's visiting family in (say) Turkey for the first time since the corona madness began. Just something to keep in mind.
My partner (USA) and me (Australia) were separated for almost 2.5 years due to travel restrictions. That was my only wavering when considering the jabs but ultimately I couldn’t do it even for that.
I'm very glad (having done my fair stint of long-distancing, albeit w/o the madness masquerading as a 'pandemic' (all we had, back in our graduate student days, were work-related and economic-derived constraints).
Personal report: Yes, this is legit. I know many who have done so. In my confusion I got vaccinated to facilitate visiting my parents living outside of Schengen. I immediately regretted it and never got the 2nd dose.
Thanks, have no intention of taking anymore experimental jabs. In the end it was awkward but thoroughly possible to visit Ireland and return to Germany last August. (Note: Ireland is not part of Schengen which means port border controls - otherwise wouldn't have bothered as with any other Schengen country I can just go overland without border controls).
Certainly remain rueful about acquiescing last year. Still, am hopeful one dose (Biontech) will not be associated with long-term negative side-effects.
Only upside, is I feel I bridge two worlds now of vaxxed-unvaxxed with one leg in both camps and it makes it sometimes easier to approach the issue with others.
Also: the last sentence (re visiting family abroad) may be very important, as 'Western' (rich) people rarely face the same restrictions and discriminations as non-Westerners (just ask any HR person in the EU/EEA about hiring someone from a 'third country')...
Just claim asylum, then vaccination is not required at all. Nor is a valid visa, passport or even means of support necessary. Apparently, the virus - any virus or bacteria or parasite - can discern between someone having been on vacation in say Tunisia returning to EU by way of Italy, and someone boarding a rubber boat in Tunisia heading for Lampedusa.
That's some virus, that is!
As for people electing to get shot so they can travel - well, look at it this way: almost twenty years ago now, the gaming industry started with DLC, always online and so on. The word on the Net then in gamer circles was that this wouldn't fly, people would reject and resist it. Just after they buy the latest upgrade to WoW or Everquest or whatever. It's just 5 euro for my Travian game, it's no big. Only 1 euro to get three more shots in "make three" or bejewelled", nothing to fuss about.
See where I'm going? Restraint and moderation and conscious control, the hallmarks of the adult civilised human, is gone. Abstract reasoning is gone in favour of pure 'abstractionism'*, as is deduction/induction gone the way of the Dodo, and so is basic logic and even a superficial instinct for cause/effect byond the immediate sensory input.
Basically, we as a civilisation have regressed to not only pre-adolescence but to the mind of the one-year old, were western civilisation a person. Me! Now! Gratify! Shallow! Hollow! Brittle! First one, now two generations of people with the mentality of a KinderEgg!
*To only either think purely abstract disconnected from actual reality (look at the arguments for wind turbines f.e.) or to make oneself willingly unable to abstract at all, taking refuge in purely literal semticism to interpret anything contrary to the impulsedriven proto-mind as crimethink.
Post-modernism, anyone? That was, literally, my first thought when I read this--and while I don't agree with everything people like Jordan Peterson say or do, there's this one line from him that stuck (paraphrasing): you want to change 'the system', but you fail to clean up your room?
Re the 'get out of jail free' card--look at 'Syrians' in 2015 or 'Ukrainians welcome' now: no tickets for public transport required, no paying-into social security systems, just come and get something 'for free'.
Must be somewhere els than Sweden then, about the ukrainians. Syrians and arabs get the all-inclusive treatment, the ukrainians aren't recognised as refugees at all. The way it works is a refugee must register with the local council to be able to get even basic emergency health care, but until this registration is processed (for MENA and AFrica people it takes about a week, tops) they are in bureaucratic limbo - because our governement is under internal pressure not to let non-moslem migrants in.
Also, the ukrainians are being placed in moslem-run asylum shelters, where they are put under pressure to conform to sharia or even convert. Small wonder that many try to stay in Poland or leave Sweden.
The ones I meet regularly (at a free church) are being cared for by volunteers in our local communities, and it is a hassle to get them to accept aid unless they are allowed to help out and work for it, so now some of them are getting jobs on the side.
The contrast with negroesout of Africa or Middle East moslems is staggering. The latter two groups behave like cuckoo chicks, always clamouring for more free now or else violence and threats always the first go to, never a word of thanks or any respect.
So bring on the ukrainians I say. 300 000 of them would do wonders for our demograpghics seeing how much shared history we have.
The moslems can, frankly, go die in a fire becaue even the most agreeable are nothing but problems.
Trying to mandate a novel medical procedure on the populace causes them to radically question the government's motives and uptake duly plummets. Really? Quelle surprise!
Am only surprised that Ms Scherndl didn't trot out some version of "I'm so grateful the state locked down and scapegoated the unvaccinated and tried to mandate vaccination for everyone. Just think how much worse it would have been."
LMFAO at the delusion of this supercilious professional managerial class of twits writing, reading and sharing thes pap articles in their lives of oblivion.
The thing that 'bothers' me most, actually, is that these people are either stupid (hence they shouldn't be where they are, certainly that medical doctor who teaches ethics at a placed named after Siegmund Freud: oh, the irony) or evil (or both).
Re the second paragr.: lots of this is going on, too, no doubt about it.
Re the last one: this feels uncomfortably close to my own existence (at least I'm aware of it).
The things that keeps ye ol’ SS Covidistan afloat may be synthesised as follows: You forgot to mention that these chemical pharma investors are hiding those who have been injured and/or died from this experiment.
Oh well, the many scientists will simply put this into the category of another failed experiments and move on to the next one.
I expect all those injected to die from it so its nice to read this many have rejected the deathvax.
Well, as in the above comment/exchange, I expect a combo of evil and stupid to reign supreme, esp. among the credentialised (chattering) 'classes' (oh, the irony).
For scientists, well, have you ever asked any 'research scientist' how many mice he or she kills every week, month, or year? I think (fear) that you're right about the 'meh, another experiment' thinking.
Re the last sentence: we all die, at some point, but in my book, it's about making the 'waiting' worth your time and effort, ain't it?
Yes. Having a natural life is most important (to me). My legacy will be the growing of soil fertility while growing food and the planting of long lived trees!
As an unvaccinated Briton with an unvaccinated wife and unvaccinated children of university age I can only commend those Austrians who have stood strong against this insanity.
More power to their elbows!
Re: people getting injected so they could go on vacation
I've been thinking about this. This was a big thing early on, but right now, take it with a grain of salt. First of all, the source of information (an enthusiastic injector who despises the uninjected) is not necessarily all that reliable. It's possible that that people say they need to "travel," and he says it's for a "vacation." (There are all sorts of reasons why people might want/need to travel, and vacationing is just one of them.) Moreover, not all "vacationing" is made equal. For one person, it means a packaged tour to some exotic destination somewhere, just because. For another, it's visiting family in (say) Turkey for the first time since the corona madness began. Just something to keep in mind.
My partner (USA) and me (Australia) were separated for almost 2.5 years due to travel restrictions. That was my only wavering when considering the jabs but ultimately I couldn’t do it even for that.
Oh my, that's heart-breaking! I hope you (two) are still going strong!
In my circles, I know a bunch of Kiwis and Aussies here in Nortern Europe: same problems, same shit, different smell, I'd suppose.
Thanks! Yep we are he came here for 5 weeks in April finally. I don’t know how we did it in hindsight
I'm very glad (having done my fair stint of long-distancing, albeit w/o the madness masquerading as a 'pandemic' (all we had, back in our graduate student days, were work-related and economic-derived constraints).
Stay strong!
Personal report: Yes, this is legit. I know many who have done so. In my confusion I got vaccinated to facilitate visiting my parents living outside of Schengen. I immediately regretted it and never got the 2nd dose.
Oh my, I'm sorry about it. I recall your family is from 'outside of Schengen', but I commend you not to taking the second injection!
I hope you saw them in the interim!
Thanks, have no intention of taking anymore experimental jabs. In the end it was awkward but thoroughly possible to visit Ireland and return to Germany last August. (Note: Ireland is not part of Schengen which means port border controls - otherwise wouldn't have bothered as with any other Schengen country I can just go overland without border controls).
Certainly remain rueful about acquiescing last year. Still, am hopeful one dose (Biontech) will not be associated with long-term negative side-effects.
Only upside, is I feel I bridge two worlds now of vaxxed-unvaxxed with one leg in both camps and it makes it sometimes easier to approach the issue with others.
To clarify: my dose was back in May 2021.
Could be, and this is a good point.
Also: the last sentence (re visiting family abroad) may be very important, as 'Western' (rich) people rarely face the same restrictions and discriminations as non-Westerners (just ask any HR person in the EU/EEA about hiring someone from a 'third country')...
Anyone taking their first vaccination now should be certified as mentally ill
Our respect and admiration to that 1/3.
Seems like they learned from history…
"History is racist and bigoted!"
Just claim asylum, then vaccination is not required at all. Nor is a valid visa, passport or even means of support necessary. Apparently, the virus - any virus or bacteria or parasite - can discern between someone having been on vacation in say Tunisia returning to EU by way of Italy, and someone boarding a rubber boat in Tunisia heading for Lampedusa.
That's some virus, that is!
As for people electing to get shot so they can travel - well, look at it this way: almost twenty years ago now, the gaming industry started with DLC, always online and so on. The word on the Net then in gamer circles was that this wouldn't fly, people would reject and resist it. Just after they buy the latest upgrade to WoW or Everquest or whatever. It's just 5 euro for my Travian game, it's no big. Only 1 euro to get three more shots in "make three" or bejewelled", nothing to fuss about.
See where I'm going? Restraint and moderation and conscious control, the hallmarks of the adult civilised human, is gone. Abstract reasoning is gone in favour of pure 'abstractionism'*, as is deduction/induction gone the way of the Dodo, and so is basic logic and even a superficial instinct for cause/effect byond the immediate sensory input.
Basically, we as a civilisation have regressed to not only pre-adolescence but to the mind of the one-year old, were western civilisation a person. Me! Now! Gratify! Shallow! Hollow! Brittle! First one, now two generations of people with the mentality of a KinderEgg!
*To only either think purely abstract disconnected from actual reality (look at the arguments for wind turbines f.e.) or to make oneself willingly unable to abstract at all, taking refuge in purely literal semticism to interpret anything contrary to the impulsedriven proto-mind as crimethink.
Post-modernism, anyone? That was, literally, my first thought when I read this--and while I don't agree with everything people like Jordan Peterson say or do, there's this one line from him that stuck (paraphrasing): you want to change 'the system', but you fail to clean up your room?
Re the 'get out of jail free' card--look at 'Syrians' in 2015 or 'Ukrainians welcome' now: no tickets for public transport required, no paying-into social security systems, just come and get something 'for free'.
Must be somewhere els than Sweden then, about the ukrainians. Syrians and arabs get the all-inclusive treatment, the ukrainians aren't recognised as refugees at all. The way it works is a refugee must register with the local council to be able to get even basic emergency health care, but until this registration is processed (for MENA and AFrica people it takes about a week, tops) they are in bureaucratic limbo - because our governement is under internal pressure not to let non-moslem migrants in.
Also, the ukrainians are being placed in moslem-run asylum shelters, where they are put under pressure to conform to sharia or even convert. Small wonder that many try to stay in Poland or leave Sweden.
The ones I meet regularly (at a free church) are being cared for by volunteers in our local communities, and it is a hassle to get them to accept aid unless they are allowed to help out and work for it, so now some of them are getting jobs on the side.
The contrast with negroesout of Africa or Middle East moslems is staggering. The latter two groups behave like cuckoo chicks, always clamouring for more free now or else violence and threats always the first go to, never a word of thanks or any respect.
So bring on the ukrainians I say. 300 000 of them would do wonders for our demograpghics seeing how much shared history we have.
The moslems can, frankly, go die in a fire becaue even the most agreeable are nothing but problems.
As far as I'm concerned, they can go pound sand. My natural immunity is far superior to these rubbish injections.
Exactly the way I see this matter.
Trying to mandate a novel medical procedure on the populace causes them to radically question the government's motives and uptake duly plummets. Really? Quelle surprise!
Am only surprised that Ms Scherndl didn't trot out some version of "I'm so grateful the state locked down and scapegoated the unvaccinated and tried to mandate vaccination for everyone. Just think how much worse it would have been."
LMFAO at the delusion of this supercilious professional managerial class of twits writing, reading and sharing thes pap articles in their lives of oblivion.
The thing that 'bothers' me most, actually, is that these people are either stupid (hence they shouldn't be where they are, certainly that medical doctor who teaches ethics at a placed named after Siegmund Freud: oh, the irony) or evil (or both).
Re the second paragr.: lots of this is going on, too, no doubt about it.
Re the last one: this feels uncomfortably close to my own existence (at least I'm aware of it).
All right, I just decided to skip that September trip abroad that would have required me to take a bus through Austria. Oh, well.
The things that keeps ye ol’ SS Covidistan afloat may be synthesised as follows: You forgot to mention that these chemical pharma investors are hiding those who have been injured and/or died from this experiment.
Oh well, the many scientists will simply put this into the category of another failed experiments and move on to the next one.
I expect all those injected to die from it so its nice to read this many have rejected the deathvax.
Interesting clip: https://twitter.com/WATCHMEBURNDOW1/status/1529342458030481408
Thanks for sharing, Rick! Paul Marik is on the right side of this.
Here's his webpage: https://totalityofevidence.com/dr-paul-marik/
Spread the word!
Well, as in the above comment/exchange, I expect a combo of evil and stupid to reign supreme, esp. among the credentialised (chattering) 'classes' (oh, the irony).
For scientists, well, have you ever asked any 'research scientist' how many mice he or she kills every week, month, or year? I think (fear) that you're right about the 'meh, another experiment' thinking.
Re the last sentence: we all die, at some point, but in my book, it's about making the 'waiting' worth your time and effort, ain't it?
Yes. Having a natural life is most important (to me). My legacy will be the growing of soil fertility while growing food and the planting of long lived trees!
This is how it is supposed to be anyways!