Highlights incl. hard questions about places of infection, mask mandates, tests, and excess mortality, as well as a series of enquiries into vaccine efficacy and the old of vs. with Covid question
GO Austria Court GO! It could be disrupting for all the other EU Const. Courts as here in Italy or the EU Supreme that so far have supported the mainstream media and governments narrative. And doing so they trashed, for cryptocurrencies I guess, all main Constitutional laws regarding health and freedom of choice rights. For sure Mr.Draghi has more than one crypto account...
Keeping my fingers crossed that the constitutional court continues growing a spine and puts an end to their nonsense. If it happens in Austria then that combined with the US Supreme Court striking down Biden's OSHA mandate might spur on other challenges in places like Germany and France. If those bastions of biotyranny break then so too might other places like Canada and Australia and New Zealand. Perhaps we may even hope for saner policies going forward globally.
Good question, and thanks for keeping a diary on these tests. I agree with you: it's a scam.
As to the sheer lunacy revolving around these mandates, well, I elected to ignore them all. I've been asked once or twice by (private) security personnel to don a face diaper, but I simply cannot bring myself to wearing one, apart from them being absolutely useless unless you're seriously symptomatic.
Anyways, keep up the resistance: it's leadership by example.
I have lost any trust in Austrian‘s officials and therefore I don’t think that the questions from one(!) FPÖ judge will change anything. That‘s not a letter from all Supreme Court judges but only from one. Rest of them seems to be in deep slumber.
I share your skepticism, my friend, and I'll post my take on its meaning tomorrow. I just want to wait for a third day to gather as much information as possible.
I do, however respectfully, disagree with reluctance to see this for what it is: it's not about one judge or the seemingly perennial sleep of his colleagues.
This is an official enquiry, and the odds that Hauer's colleagues on the bench didn't at least not disagree with the letter is telling in and of itself.
As to why now and not, say, from March 2020 onwards, I cannot say for sure but offer my gut feelings: propaganda works, and as you (or another poster) correctly pointed out, these are senior jurists, hence they fall quite likely into 'high-risk' groups. Still, these judges don't work alone, hence--assuming for the sake of the argument a staff of 5 people, statistically, at least one of these five would be unvaccinated, to say nothing about family members--it is thus highly unlikely that the judges didn't hear anything about the valid criticism.
I also don't think that party politics and/or affiliation play that big a role. My gut feeling is that the judges see that the crowds protesting the vaxx mandate aren't going away. If anything, supreme court judges are exceptionally good at reading the audience (otherwise they'd probably never appointed to such sensitive positions), hence I think that Hauer and his colleagues are sizing up the government and, who knows, maybe Mückstein and his ilk actually have all the answers that support these mandates.
While I personally doubt that to be the case, my reading is this: it's the régime's auto-protective mode that's being implemented, by which is meant that everyone in 'politics' who has much to lose if there were, say, 300,000 protesters outside rather than 50,000 every other Saturday is closing ranks. In other words, pawns--such as Nehammer and Mückstein--that will be sacrificed are put on notice.
Thanks for disagreeing with my view, I highly appreciate this. Your words in God‘s ear, we will see what time will bring. But I must confess that my gut feeling is a very positive one, it’s only my fear-driven brain that loves to distrust everybody at the moment. But I feel that we are seeing the last days of Covidistan’s regime. It‘s incredible how many corruption cases are coming to light at the moment, I don’t think that the actual government could survive this…
Thank you for that run down. So what the court is asking is "Show us the facts you have based your decisions on". Understandable, since many other nations (such as Norway, Denmark and the UK) have very detailed information on cases, death, etcetera and are like enough to make comparisons valid.
Tangent:
And although regime-loyal media might downplay this, the austrian politicians peers within the EU will be keeping their eye on the response - I'm speculating but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a certain amount of frantic teleconferences happening this week, so as to "give a unified response in order to avoid confusion".
Because these differences in reporting from the various EU-provinces while be used as a cause for enforcing a united system not only as a compliment to the national systems but instead of them, with no public access to data.
Top billing in Sweden's state media is the handball championship. Panem et circenses never goes out of style.
Well, I think the testing question is the key (yes, the vaxx mandate-related VE issues are important, too, but hear me out): if the testing is found to be…wanting, all the derivative issues--these include very much the vaxx mandate--will logically, as well as legally, be deemed invalid.
I don't know if the Court's thinking was thus, but still it's the only reasonable way of getting rid of all of these mandates in a single stroke.
I also think you're right about the 'tangential' aspect: Austria is the first country in the EU to try to mandate this, and perhaps the Court's intent was to bury the Health Minister with the search for present-able data (word has it that data has never been properly collected). I think that we'll get 'something' by 18 Feb., but it will reveal the nakedness of Mückstein, Nehammer, and their ilk (and I do wish to apologise for the gross-ness of that thought).
Hahahaha, well, at least Nehammer could be viewed as a quite attractive man, therefore the image you drew with your last sentence doesn’t necessarily need to be an utterly gross one 😅. But when I imagine a naked Kogler (and Vienna‘s Ludwig and Hacker)… oh dear… 😅😟
I think if the answers to number 7 on the vaccines are widely published/read it could really surprise some people with regard absolute/relative risk reductions and the issue of the 14-day post vaccination period.
It's Austria, not Norway. And of course they have a court system, but it went into coma for a while, and it appears to have suddenly woken up, much to the Covidians' dismay.
Y'know, maybe it's simply a case of personal fear. Constitutional Court judges are unlikely to be in their 20s (or 30s, or 40s...). They may have freaked out about COVID. And then Omicron came onto the scene, and they decided it wasn't scary anymore, and so they suddenly remembered what they were paid to do.
Wow. It's almost like the court wants to know if those restrictions and mandates actually make sense.
Or they've finally had enough?
I, for one, would like to learn about vaxx uptake among the Supremes--perhaps there are some who don't want to be forced into taking a third jab?
GO Austria Court GO! It could be disrupting for all the other EU Const. Courts as here in Italy or the EU Supreme that so far have supported the mainstream media and governments narrative. And doing so they trashed, for cryptocurrencies I guess, all main Constitutional laws regarding health and freedom of choice rights. For sure Mr.Draghi has more than one crypto account...
Keeping my fingers crossed that the constitutional court continues growing a spine and puts an end to their nonsense. If it happens in Austria then that combined with the US Supreme Court striking down Biden's OSHA mandate might spur on other challenges in places like Germany and France. If those bastions of biotyranny break then so too might other places like Canada and Australia and New Zealand. Perhaps we may even hope for saner policies going forward globally.
Canada may be on the brink of freedom. Go truckers!!
Yes! Hope they succeed!
The Coward in Chief has gone into hiding. So, there's certainly hope.
But Austria Court could do a even a better job than stop mandates, force lairs to show the real numbers and in this way open the Pandora vase!
How have people been so gullible for two years?
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/my-weekly-spit-test-reveals-the-scamdemic
Good question, and thanks for keeping a diary on these tests. I agree with you: it's a scam.
As to the sheer lunacy revolving around these mandates, well, I elected to ignore them all. I've been asked once or twice by (private) security personnel to don a face diaper, but I simply cannot bring myself to wearing one, apart from them being absolutely useless unless you're seriously symptomatic.
Anyways, keep up the resistance: it's leadership by example.
I have lost any trust in Austrian‘s officials and therefore I don’t think that the questions from one(!) FPÖ judge will change anything. That‘s not a letter from all Supreme Court judges but only from one. Rest of them seems to be in deep slumber.
I share your skepticism, my friend, and I'll post my take on its meaning tomorrow. I just want to wait for a third day to gather as much information as possible.
I do, however respectfully, disagree with reluctance to see this for what it is: it's not about one judge or the seemingly perennial sleep of his colleagues.
This is an official enquiry, and the odds that Hauer's colleagues on the bench didn't at least not disagree with the letter is telling in and of itself.
As to why now and not, say, from March 2020 onwards, I cannot say for sure but offer my gut feelings: propaganda works, and as you (or another poster) correctly pointed out, these are senior jurists, hence they fall quite likely into 'high-risk' groups. Still, these judges don't work alone, hence--assuming for the sake of the argument a staff of 5 people, statistically, at least one of these five would be unvaccinated, to say nothing about family members--it is thus highly unlikely that the judges didn't hear anything about the valid criticism.
I also don't think that party politics and/or affiliation play that big a role. My gut feeling is that the judges see that the crowds protesting the vaxx mandate aren't going away. If anything, supreme court judges are exceptionally good at reading the audience (otherwise they'd probably never appointed to such sensitive positions), hence I think that Hauer and his colleagues are sizing up the government and, who knows, maybe Mückstein and his ilk actually have all the answers that support these mandates.
While I personally doubt that to be the case, my reading is this: it's the régime's auto-protective mode that's being implemented, by which is meant that everyone in 'politics' who has much to lose if there were, say, 300,000 protesters outside rather than 50,000 every other Saturday is closing ranks. In other words, pawns--such as Nehammer and Mückstein--that will be sacrificed are put on notice.
Thanks for disagreeing with my view, I highly appreciate this. Your words in God‘s ear, we will see what time will bring. But I must confess that my gut feeling is a very positive one, it’s only my fear-driven brain that loves to distrust everybody at the moment. But I feel that we are seeing the last days of Covidistan’s regime. It‘s incredible how many corruption cases are coming to light at the moment, I don’t think that the actual government could survive this…
Thank you for that run down. So what the court is asking is "Show us the facts you have based your decisions on". Understandable, since many other nations (such as Norway, Denmark and the UK) have very detailed information on cases, death, etcetera and are like enough to make comparisons valid.
Tangent:
And although regime-loyal media might downplay this, the austrian politicians peers within the EU will be keeping their eye on the response - I'm speculating but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a certain amount of frantic teleconferences happening this week, so as to "give a unified response in order to avoid confusion".
Because these differences in reporting from the various EU-provinces while be used as a cause for enforcing a united system not only as a compliment to the national systems but instead of them, with no public access to data.
Top billing in Sweden's state media is the handball championship. Panem et circenses never goes out of style.
Well, I think the testing question is the key (yes, the vaxx mandate-related VE issues are important, too, but hear me out): if the testing is found to be…wanting, all the derivative issues--these include very much the vaxx mandate--will logically, as well as legally, be deemed invalid.
I don't know if the Court's thinking was thus, but still it's the only reasonable way of getting rid of all of these mandates in a single stroke.
I also think you're right about the 'tangential' aspect: Austria is the first country in the EU to try to mandate this, and perhaps the Court's intent was to bury the Health Minister with the search for present-able data (word has it that data has never been properly collected). I think that we'll get 'something' by 18 Feb., but it will reveal the nakedness of Mückstein, Nehammer, and their ilk (and I do wish to apologise for the gross-ness of that thought).
Hahahaha, well, at least Nehammer could be viewed as a quite attractive man, therefore the image you drew with your last sentence doesn’t necessarily need to be an utterly gross one 😅. But when I imagine a naked Kogler (and Vienna‘s Ludwig and Hacker)… oh dear… 😅😟
Thanks for this. I think the incidental ICU numbers will be interesting as well!
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/
I think if the answers to number 7 on the vaccines are widely published/read it could really surprise some people with regard absolute/relative risk reductions and the issue of the 14-day post vaccination period.
I did not know Norway even had a court system...
It's Austria, not Norway. And of course they have a court system, but it went into coma for a while, and it appears to have suddenly woken up, much to the Covidians' dismay.
Same, same; but different. We wil see. Don't count your cases before they are hatched.
Same shit, different smell.
Do note that poop is typically brown, which is not only my favourite colour /sarcasm
Hahaha! Nice pun.
Y'know, maybe it's simply a case of personal fear. Constitutional Court judges are unlikely to be in their 20s (or 30s, or 40s...). They may have freaked out about COVID. And then Omicron came onto the scene, and they decided it wasn't scary anymore, and so they suddenly remembered what they were paid to do.