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Rikard's avatar

It's rare that someone kneecaps their own credibilty so hard right at the start:

"Especially in rural areas, it can be difficult to avoid feelings of loneliness..."

In other words, tell me the writer is either a suburbanite bourgeoise good-for-nothing from a sheltered upbringing, or a social misfit/pariah that misbhaved so much they had to leave the countryside for the alienated and anonymous citylife.

As for "old people" and tech: the tech the writer used to create the text was made by old people. Young people have yet to create anything new. And oh how angry the under-thirtys get when they have it pointed out to them that LLMs and AIs? Were predicted a century or more ago, and that the most basic versions have been around since at least the early 1990s.

Young people didn't create internet or LCDs or smartphones or whatever - those who did were born in 1920s-1960s. Young people didn't even realise the potential of the internet - that's on people who are now middle-aged at least.

It's as if I was to claim to have invented the shovel just because I put a new haft on it.

mary-lou's avatar

(NB typo: haft = shaft?)

well put. the tech bro's seem mostly interested in harming, maiming and destroying: "...Israel is preparing for a permanent presence in Gaza, satellite images reveal..." - https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/gaza-israel-building-military-outposts-roads-permanent-presence-yellow-line

Kaylene Emery's avatar

Your is great and I thank you.

Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.

mary-lou's avatar

quite honestly, I don't think Covid "inspired" anything! also interesting these "researchers" didn't mention the role of churches - most of which were closed, so people in need could not easily find places to go to for strength, prayer, healing. as for me I did a lot of walking through the streets of my city, meeting others, and coming upon many half-and-half subversive acitivities going on in the strangest places. the real challenge, if possible, is to not become dependent on the internet :-))

epimetheus's avatar

Well, it inspired me to start this little webzine here, but since that's all digital, I suppose an argument could be had if it actually exists.

You write: 'the real challenge, if possible, is to not become dependent on the internet'

I fear that, in the grander schemes of things, this is already a fact. Should mankind ever (eyesroll) run into trouble with the internet, it'll be a rude awakening.

mary-lou's avatar

surely it's a good tool and communicating through it with great ss authors like yourself is rewarding in many ways :-)) but to be dependent on it... just imagine when, for some reason, there's an unannounced black-out, no electricity for a while. horror of horrors for many! yet it is an almost daily inconvenience in, for instance, Indonesia (where I've worked & lived for several years). improvising's an art.

thanks for all the work you do and Merry Christmas on this winter solstice's day.

epimetheus's avatar

Same same about the comment section (here and elsewhere).

As to power outages, well, improvisation works (has to), and everything else is, well, something else. If power outages persist, we'll quickly discover the true angels (or demons) of human nature, won't we?

Joshua Ramos Levine's avatar

‘If you want to understand society in the 21st century, you have to understand the interaction between technology and society’, says sociologist of technology Uli Meyer from the Johannes Kepler University Linz. Good job seizing on this empty comment. 150k for this?

I still have a lot higher hopes for Austria and much of Europe than the US. In a rural area where my relatives have property im the US it’s now banned to have fires, even in barbecues. Not just for “climate” reasons but also for liability, nannyism, etc. and nobody pushes back. Meanwhile last night at the Christmas Tree Dive in Gmunden where a dozen badass water rescuers dove into the freezing Traunsee to retrieve a Christmas tree, there were at least three open fires with absolutely no protection around them. A thousand people gathered. We waited 1 1/2 hours for the event and everyone was happy chatting watching joking and freezing. But mostly not on phones! Everyone was so in the moment. I know things are headed in the wrong direction but everything is still digital (and masked) back in Seattle whereas things have gone back to analog here in Austria.

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epimetheus's avatar

At my workplace (a university), we are running several data systems™ in parallel, with no-one knowing what is 'there' and where (how) to access it, and the entire nonsense being crowned by old files becoming inaccessible over time due to compatibility issues.

Needless to say, these digital representations (simulacra) of binders, files, and stuff are typically compiled in one instance and then left where they are, with no-one ever bothering to look for (at) them ever again.

Joshua Ramos Levine's avatar

Efficiency!